SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[HyoMinPark]

I removed the link. It took me 5 minutes to find a random all grey parse fight. Im sure others can do the same.

Just gonna copy-pasta:

EDIT: Friend of mine still had the link open and linked it to me. As I thought, you’re looking at the Damage Done tab numbers. Those are compared against numbers from the past 2 weeks—meaning, it’s comparing numbers uploaded in Patch 4.0 with ~290/300 gear to numbers uploaded within the past two weeks in ~380/390/400 gear. Of course, they’re going to be all gray.

Go into the Rankings tab and click on the Historical Tab. That gives you a much better idea of what the numbers were like back on the day it was posted. Spoiler alert: they weren’t all gray.

Please learn how to actually read and interpret data before you try to present it as evidence to back up a claim.

[whiskeybravo]

Also people asked to show a full grey group clearing current content.

So the answer is a bit more convoluted than it would seem. "A full group of grays" is a bit too wide in scope. I've done some work here to add up all 10% and it's not enough, or barely maybe with the top 8 and LB3 if you got lucky it would be. However, a 24% is also gray, and I suspect if I did the math for 20% it'd be enough to scrape by.

I took a few things away from this that I thought was interesting. The main caveat to keep in mind is these are all last 2 weeks scores, so if we could go back in time before people had a lot of gear, 10% maybe even 20% would likely not have been enough to get a clear.

Here's my work.

[KaivaC]

I removed the link. It took me 5 minutes to find a random all grey parse fight. Im sure others can do the same.

Y'know, with all this noises you're making about logs and claims of grey parse can do this and that, you realize that you also open yourself up to being challenged on some of the things you've been saying. Now, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you raid on an alt, all that talk a few pages back about raiding Savage kind of loses most of its luster when you yourself only have a single clear - on the Phantom train. Of course, my statement is irrelevant if you raid on an alt. (Before you throw that back at me, my Alpha Savage clears are on my main). Plus, the bulk of your argument is over Ex trials - whose bosses have lower HP than most of what you'll find in Savage. So of course, a whole bunch of greys could possibly clear it.

...Maybe you should try actually understanding fflogs and fights first.

edit: Made an error - I forgot I never linked my main to this profile, so had to make a quick edit.

[Ftail]

I'm confused? Does OP want to get rid of parser, which is basically a must have for savage raiding to figure out why you aren't meeting the DPS check? Or does he just want to get rid of FFXIV logs, just the website? I don't see why so many people are getting triggered if he's not talking about getting rid of the parser.

You need to know if someone trying out for your static is good or not? Why not just do a trial run and see how they perform with parser instead of checking FFXIV logs, like I hope most groups still do.

[KaivaC]

I'm confused? Does OP want to get rid of parser, which is basically a must have for savage raiding to figure out why you aren't meeting the DPS check? Or does he just want to get rid of FFXIV logs, just the website? I don't see why so many people are getting triggered if he's not talking about getting rid of the parser.

You need to know if someone trying out for your static is good or not? Why not just do a trial run and see how they perform with parser instead of checking FFXIV logs, like I hope most groups still do.

At this point, I'm not even going to say anything. I'm just going to laugh. Another one bites the dust.

[Ftail]

At this point, I'm not even going to say anything. I'm just going to laugh. Another one bites the dust.

What are you laughing at and why?

[XiXiQ]

If I visit the site my anti-virus blocks it for coin-mining. No idea if it's a false alarm, by design or a hack.

[NocturniaUzuki]

At this point, I'm not even going to say anything. I'm just going to laugh. Another one bites the dust.

Regardless of whether or not the OP was a bait or not, the discussion it sparks is no less meaningful. So Ftail might get the last laugh here, as it were.

[KaivaC]

Regardless of whether or not the OP was a bait or not, the discussion it sparks is no less meaningful. So Ftail might get the last laugh here, as it were.

Oh no, I'm not disputing the follow-ups to the discussion haven't had meaning. It's just that a lot of people are getting sucked into this thread thinking that the OP was serious...I am laughing because folks are falling for the exact same bait that I did. Besides that, I wouldn't exactly call it so much as meaningful as it is just disputing those who grossly misunderstand FFLOGs and try to lambast it this this wholly toxic website, when really its not toxic. The sad fact is that the bait gave a lot of misinformed people a starting point to start rallying over, a good portion of whom have demonstrated that they lack understanding of how parsers and FFLOGs really even work in the first place.

[JohnathonBravo]

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