SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[HazyAssaulter]

This site breeds toxic communities like The Balance and elitists mindsets. It also uses job and ability symbols ripped from the game files and profits on SE copyrighted content through advertising. It's also constantly used to name and shame players. Use of the website also requires use of third party tools that break the games ToS. What's worst is that one must make an account and forcibly opt out in order to be excluded from the site.

SE, please take advantage of the site owner's legal liability and force him to immediately take down his toxic website. It is an affront to everything stood for in this great community

[Shurrikhan]

Seems to me it's creating communities that create content where none would otherwise exist and retains players where the game otherwise could not.

Its issues are few (percentile largely based on how padded your parse is and not at all on how much rDPS one gives) and its benefits many (reruns for fun, coaching, guides, and a secondary sense of progression).

And on the whole The Balance is far from toxic or even elitist.


Edit:
FFlogs swapped to an rDPS-first approach about 6 months after this thread began. This, too, has certain problems though, as it gives jobs particularly able to feed buffers their rDPS through advantaged burst damage no credit for having done so. Granted, that too is more a community problem (easily addressed by just looking also at the difference between raw and adjusted damage to see how much rDPS they grant others, the problem itself stemming just from people assuming they know more about how contribution works than they do and/or being too lazy to make full use of the information available).

Regardless, FFlogs' only vulnerability to action would be its symbols, which they could just swap to any of various parody icons and, poof, they'd have zero liability.

[HyoMinPark]

This site breeds toxic communities like The Balance and elitists mindsets. It also uses job and ability symbols ripped from the game files and profits on SE copyrighted content through advertising. It's also constantly used to name and shame players.

Do you have any proof to back up these accusations?

[Emstidor]

[Dualgunner]

Copyright law is the best way to destroy things you dislike. That's, imo, the worst thing about copyright law.

[Penthea]

OP your suggestion won't work. FFlogs could just use other symbols to represent classes, and even if it was taken down something similar will take its place because there is demand for it.

[Kuroka]

What's worst is that one must make an account and forcibly opt out in order to be excluded from the site

IDC the site but this is the one thing i hate and it should not be allowed.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Clearly the solution is to take down the internet in its entirety.

It's been fun, folks, but it's time to close up the shop. Please turn your chairs over on the way out.

[Dualgunner]

Clearly the solution is to take down the internet in its entirety.

It's been fun, folks, but it's time to close up the shop. Please turn your chairs over on the way out.

No >:C

/10char

[AleXwern]

I almost took the bait

Then I looked at your logs