No TP in Shadowbringer Expectation

[Burningskull]

So in a past interview Yoshi said it was more about removing TP than merging TP into MP in Shadowbringer. While I'm all for being able to AoE without fear of running out of TP even with Invigorate, I wonder. If I can swing my sword without getting tired why can't I cast magic without getting tired. Now I know lore wise you only have so much aether to draw in or call upon or w/e, and having mp keeps healers from being able to just spam heals and having the party never die. I guess you could put healers on a timer but that seems more dangerous I think. What do you guys think?

[BillyKaplan]

But almost all classes use their aether in one way or another. Machinist kind of channels it into their turrets. MNK is a parallel to RDM utilizing its own mana in its spells, as both arts developed at similar times in a similar location, after White and Black magics drawing from outside aether brought about a calamity. It's not like DRGs just generate their skills out of thin air. WARs use their Inner Beast to boost their abilities, and a case can be made for SAM, too.
NIN and BRD are the peculiar exceptions here.

Also, do you have a source for that interview? Because I really don't think they'd let any job really be without resource. At worst they'll redo the work gauges and use that

[Aster_E]

When this was announced I was concerned that Foes' Requiem would drain all MP super fast, like it already does, and leave Bards unable to use any attacks. Now I realize that it will go bye-bye, for players, and appear by way of a few NPCs or deep dungeon monsters that can hold it on for 20-25 seconds at a time - just like what happened to Stoneskin.

;-;

[Burningskull]

But almost all classes use their aether in one way or another. Machinist kind of channels it into their turrets. MNK is a parallel to RDM utilizing its own mana in its spells, as both arts developed at similar times in a similar location, after White and Black magics drawing from outside aether brought about a calamity. It's not like DRGs just generate their skills out of thin air. WARs use their Inner Beast to boost their abilities, and a case can be made for SAM, too.
NIN and BRD are the peculiar exceptions here.

Also, do you have a source for that interview? Because I really don't think they'd let any job really be without resource. At worst they'll redo the work gauges and use that

Happy had a video on it a while back.

[Burningskull]

When this was announced I was concerned that Foes' Requiem would drain all MP super fast, like it already does, and leave Bards unable to use any attacks. Now I realize that it will go bye-bye, for players, and appear by way of a few NPCs or deep dungeon monsters that can hold it on for 20-25 seconds at a time - just like what happened to Stoneskin.

;-;

Foe's would probably be turned into an OGCD abilitiy.

[Aster_E]

Foe's would probably be turned into an OGCD abilitiy.

Optimistically speaking it could be. Pessimistically speaking, if they went that route then the cooldown timer would be about five or six minutes, the effect timer would be five to ten seconds tops, and the effect itself would be 2% on mobs within range. Realistically, I can only say that we'll see when it happens.

[Burningskull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiUMFjH3x5g

Here is the video. You can see it in the video at 19:09.

[Aster_E]

Now, alternatively, what they could do is make all TP costing abilities suddenly be CD only, no cost to even MP, so abilities like Foes' Requiem would continue to burn the one resource super fast, even with Refresh in effect. Then abilities like Quiknock could be spammed for days, assuming a fair GCD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiUMFjH3x5g

Here is the video. You can see it in the video at 19:09.

If that's Monseur Yappy, then I'm sorry to say that I refuse to give him any of my traffic or views, so I won't be clicking on that.

[Alestorm]

I think this will impact tanks the most, especially since 2 out of 3 need to use both resources. (WAR only used mana for flash before SB)

[Burningskull]

Now, alternatively, what they could do is make all TP costing abilities suddenly be CD only, no cost to even MP, so abilities like Foes' Requiem would continue to burn the one resource super fast, even with Refresh in effect. Then abilities like Quiknock could be spammed for days, assuming a fair GCD.



If that's Monseur Yappy, then I'm sorry to say that I refuse to give him any of my traffic or views, so I won't be clicking on that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...shida_summary/

If you prefer here is the reddit source.