Suggestion give Paladin raise/protect back in 5.0

[Zumi]

One of the class fantasies about being a Paladin is that you can use white magic. In other FF games we have had Paladin with cure, raise and protect, holy magic. We lost our protect and raise spell in 4.0 it would be nice to have those back.

When we had protect I would always cast protect on people that died on a boss so the healer wouldn't have to do it. I also would raise random people I would see dead out in the open world. But now I can't do either of those things since those 2 spells were taken out for Paladin.

[Kalise]

While I wouldn't mind Paladin getting more access to White Magic.

I'm still of a mind that Protect should be removed from the game, as it really doesn't add anything other than annoying busywork when entering a duty (After having to wait for everyone to finish cutscenes...) and upon raising.

[Rongway]

To be honest, when they first announced that the cross class actions would be dropped and replaced with role actions, what I had envisioned in my head was that role actions would come in groups of 5 and each job would get two categories. Something like

PLD : Tank, healing
WAR: Tank, melee
WHM: Magic, healing
BLM: Magic, ranged
BRD: Physical, ranged or support,ranged
etc.

rather than each job using a single pool of some-useful-some-useless actions. What we got does align with that idea a little bit, like how healers and casters all get Lucid Dreaming; and how all physical DDs get Invigorate. But I think the role system would have been better off with this idea of each job pulling from two smaller role action pools, as there would be less room for abilities that are considered "useless" within a single role pool and jobs within the healing and tanking roles would have a better variety of flavor among them. Of course, one could also argue that diversity is the responsibility of each job's job specific actions rather than role skills, but I still think this would have helped.

[Shurrikhan]

I'd rather just get rid of Protect and make Phoenix Feathers stackable, but with a significant cooldown (possibly party-wide, but reset by looting another Phoenix Feather?).

[Lyth]

I think that there needs to be a rework to how Raises work, first. Raise is quite powerful in progression. If there was a fixed number of times that a party could raise, then it no longer becomes a balance issue to give it to some jobs and not others. If you can only use a shared pool of, say, four raises across the entire fight, then any given job having access to a raise is useful but not mandatory.

Protect just needs a better implementation. Veil is probably a lot closer to what it should function like, although the entire system of barrier shields needs to be re-evaluated.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

Personally, I don't think PLD needs a raise or combat raise which it couldn't do in 2.x or 3.x since raise in combat required a WHM trait to work in combat.

As it stands we need less button bloat on PLD and combat raise would only adds to that since healers/RDM/SMN already bring enough raises for progression, it really is not needed.

In terms of protect, it's not really needed anymore and considering they were considering doing away with it when the cross role was introduced it might be removed in 5.0 and all SE need to do is buff defense and magical defense to reflect the change.

[Duskane]

Aoe that works with requiescat>raise/protect

[Kurando]

I also would raise random people I would see dead out in the open world. But now I can't do either of those things since those 2 spells were taken out for Paladin.

Maybe it will encourage you to just level/switch to a job that has Rez capabilities, if you are outside of combat then nothing is preventing you from switching anyway. Sure Raise for PLD was handy, but a waste of space inside actual combat, the only support spell I miss for them is Stoneskin, that was useful for all kinds of content.

[Shurrikhan]

Aoe that works with requiescat>raise/protect

Clemency. Your Healer, now a DPS, takes care of the rest.

[Connor]

I think Paladin getting more ‘white magic’ is a great idea, and really reinforces its identity as a more supportive tank.
That said, I do think giving it Raise would be more aesthetic than practical, if not simply from how readily available it is to healers/casters. I think it’d be better to give Paladin more unique spells like Clemency and Holy Spirit. Maybe a defensive spell that reduces damage taken to the target in some way like Stoneskin, or a ‘Shell’ type spell for magic defense (though obviously not strong enough to take magic defense away from being Dark Knight’s thing). Or maybe a single target Regen spell that reflects a portion of the healing to the caster (healing over time clemency).

Obviously all these suggestions would have mp costs / cast times / possible Oath costs for balancing