No TP in Shadowbringer Expectation

[RadicalPesto]

Limiting aoe for physical dps always felt clunky and not fun. Ultimately its better to simply reduce potencies (if your goal is to keep them worse at aoe than magic classes) than to have the current unfun system where you may bottom out on TP and be unable to act for several GCD's. For single target TP is a largely vestigial resource that was always in conflict with the dev's attempts to make Skill Speed more desirable as a stat.

[xkazh]

Melees and mch would still avoid it as much as possible except sam due to gcd clipping it's not a worthwhile stat in most cases can't speak for tanks/brd though

Yeah it's pretty much avoided on Bard too, removing TP won't change that.

[Connor]

However they change things, I hope they make resource management an actual thing. As a Bard at least the tp bar might as well not exist outside of spamming Quick Knock with Army’s Paeon, and even then you can go straight back to 100% with Invigorate and/or Tactician.

I can’t speak for jobs like Dark Knight because I don’t play enough to really know how removing tp would affect them.

For Bard though I’d love to see MP using songs like Requiem and songs like Paean and Minne have a base mp cost and short cast time (1.5 secs is short enough that it’s barely even a cast time). Requiem could have a short duration like 10-15 secs and the same effect is has now. That way you would have to manage your resources and how you’re supporting the party, instead of just blasting every piece of support you have out on a conveyor belt rotation at the start of the fight to line up with other buffs

[Seraphor]

More concerned about what AST could possibly replace Spire's effect with.
Direct Hit is an unlikely target as it's useless for Healers, so not everyone would benefit from it. Determination would basically be Balance, and nothing else is critical.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

More concerned about what AST could possibly replace Spire's effect with.
Direct Hit is an unlikely target as it's useless for Healers, so not everyone would benefit from it. Determination would basically be Balance, and nothing else is critical.

Maybe a buff to healing received? Would be useful but not essential and they would still have two cards to burn for spreading.

[Bonbori]

Edit: Nevermind, I'm a dumbo.

[Shurrikhan]

Speaking of Critical, I wouldn't mind that. It would pair up very well will SCH and BRD (assuming that the parts of their kits that depend on crits remain the same in Shadowbringers).

On the other hand... I could also see it pairing up too well and tightening their stranglehold on party slots even more than in the present meta.

But, Spear has already been changed to Critical Hit chance...

[Bonbori]

But, Spear has already been changed to Critical Hit chance...

OH. Welp nevermind me then, I completely forgot about Spear XD

Well, in that case I have no idea what else the Spire could do. They can't remove it because it's relevant to job quest narrative, but FF14's stats don't leave a lot of room for buffs that aren't already covered. Maybe... something to do with cooldowns? A buff that speeds up recast timers by x% for its duration?

[Shurrikhan]

OH. Welp nevermind me then, I completely forgot about Spear XD

Well, in that case I have no idea what else the Spire could do. They can't remove it because it's relevant to job quest narrative, but FF14's stats don't leave a lot of room for buffs that aren't already covered. Maybe... something to do with cooldowns? A buff that speeds up recast timers by x% for its duration?

So... that's the old Spear.

And its main issue was that it would desync cooldowns. It would need to increase Cooling Rate by x%, rather than decrease Recast Timers by x% to work in a manner that would function without desyncing one's cooldowns from each other. (Of course, it would still have huge variance in value -- nearly throughput-worthless to BLM and SAM -- and accelerated cooldowns would still be desynced from raid (de)buffs, which remains problematic unless every Spear is Expanded.

[Maero]

I just think there is other ways they could be approaching tp. Merging it with mp seems odd to me and would certainly change things for caster (and possibly Bard)
Also, and they have not talked about it but why do they not remove tenacity for tanks? It is rather useless