No TP in Shadowbringer Expectation

[Orbus]

TP does seem vestigial at this point.
They could flat out remove tp costs from single target attacks and it'd make little if any difference since the reduced tp costs in stormblood makes tp usage against single targets a complete non issue, you'll never run out unless you stack an absurd amount of skill speed and even then I'm not sure it's possible, which I'm sure is deliberate as people actively avoided skill speed in hw since you'd run out of tp if you stacked it and tank your damage, which is all kinds of stupid.
Not that it helps ogc attacks anyway, but that's a different matter.
You'd only run out if you're spamming aoes, and they could just make them use a flat percentage of your mp like it does tp now, and just restrict goad to physical classes.

[CaptainLagbeard]

TP does seem vestigial at this point.
They could flat out remove tp costs from single target attacks and it'd make little if any difference since the reduced tp costs in stormblood makes tp usage against single targets a complete non issue, you'll never run out unless you stack an absurd amount of skill speed and even then I'm not sure it's possible, which I'm sure is deliberate as people actively avoided skill speed in hw since you'd run out of tp if you stacked it and tank your damage, which is all kinds of stupid.
Not that it helps ogc attacks anyway, but that's a different matter.
You'd only run out if you're spamming aoes, and they could just make them use a flat percentage of your mp like it does tp now, and just restrict goad to physical classes.

Even if you managed to reach a point where you start losing TP, most fights don't last long enough that you'd run out.

Only in the 24 man raids you could probably have something with enough health, and not have an enrage.

[Burningskull]

TP does seem vestigial at this point.
They could flat out remove tp costs from single target attacks and it'd make little if any difference since the reduced tp costs in stormblood makes tp usage against single targets a complete non issue, you'll never run out unless you stack an absurd amount of skill speed and even then I'm not sure it's possible, which I'm sure is deliberate as people actively avoided skill speed in hw since you'd run out of tp if you stacked it and tank your damage, which is all kinds of stupid.
Not that it helps ogc attacks anyway, but that's a different matter.
You'd only run out if you're spamming aoes, and they could just make them use a flat percentage of your mp like it does tp now, and just restrict goad to physical classes.

I think Goad will be one of those skills going bye bye. But you do bring up a good point. With TP gone will Skill Speed become all the rage?

[Crushnight]

I think Goad will be one of those skills going bye bye. But you do bring up a good point. With TP gone will Skill Speed become all the rage?

Melees and mch would still avoid it as much as possible except sam due to gcd clipping it's not a worthwhile stat in most cases can't speak for tanks/brd though

[Marxam]

I imagine a "stamina" system akin to dark souls where all actions will cost a certain amount of stamina Quick successive actions, i.e Overpower spam, will cause you bottom out but even and controlled bursts will essentially make the transition seamless. It makes the most sense to me at least and lots of games do it now and it would have the least impact on current gameplay since most good players never bottom out of TP/MP.

[TalithaSolarien]

They also announced that they will rework skills for all classes to accommodate the new 80's skills and reduce button bloat, so we can assume that a few skills will be merged or land on the chopping block. If they change AOE skill to MP one would hope that they will normalize the costs more around the classes, SAM AOEs are insanely expensive.

And (DA) DRK (DA) really (DA) needs (DA) a (DA) rework ...

[Ifrinne]

I think the amouths of MP physical classes have will be similair to now. Maybe +1000 for lost TP. And the base combinations (single target attacks) costing nothing.

[Jandor]

Should have turned TP into something that is built by attacking and then spent through other bigger attacks, seeing as that's pretty much what half the job gauges are.

[Shurrikhan]

Should have turned TP into something that is built by attacking and then spent through other bigger attacks, seeing as that's pretty much what half the job gauges are.

But then it'd be that wretched 1.x TP Yoshida so felt the need to remove to make into something identical to yet mutually exclusive with (for all but PLD/DRK) MP...

[Jandor]

But then it'd be that wretched 1.x TP Yoshida so felt the need to remove to make into something identical to yet mutually exclusive with (for all but PLD/DRK) MP...

It turns out if you call it Beast/Oath/Blood/Ninki/Kenki instead of TP no one will notice.