Valentine's event 2019 info released

[Camiie]

A side quest with plausible deniability, and user actions SE doesn't have to advocate in favor of or even openly support. Kind of like the male bunny outfit, people asked for it enough and now it's out there, doesn't mean SE likes it or cares for it outside the occasional gag in bad taste.

Pretty weak argument considering all of that is content they willingly included and could have easily avoided if they'd wanted.

[BillyKaplan]

Pretty weak argument considering all of that is content they willingly included and could have easily avoided if they'd wanted.

Being asked about the bunny outfit to the point of being hounded in PLLs, Fanfests and even when he logs into the game isn't something so easily avoided. Now, I wasn't here for when they eventually added same-sex EBs, but they didn't add them out of the box. And if they really wanted to be allies, we'd have gotten more than that flimsy barely a maybe in the WP quests.

[Brynne]

I wasn't here for when they eventually added same-sex EBs, but they didn't add them out of the box.

EB have always allowed you to bond with whoever you want, so I don't know what you mean by "out of the box". Sure, in-game marriage wasn't a thing at launch, but they never released "only opposite genders" EB. They maintained plausible deniability by not calling it marriage and letting you pick whether you kiss or not at the end, so you can make it just a "friendship" bond if you want.

[alimdia]

Now, I wasn't here for when they eventually added same-sex EBs, but they didn't add them out of the box.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. EB had no race or sex restrictions right out of the box.

[Ariane]

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. EB had no race or sex restrictions right out of the box.

He might mean they were saying they would start with only opposite-sex marriage, and that they might add same sex later: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

It wasn't until people protested that, they changed their minds. And I think that's when they started calling it "Eternal bond". There was even some interview Yoshi-P was asked something about marriage, and he said something like "please don't call it that, its an eternal bond" like he really didn't want anyone to think there is gay marriage in the game.

[Crushnight]

He might mean they were saying they would start with only opposite-sex marriage, and that they might add same sex later: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

It wasn't until people protested that, they changed their minds. And I think that's when they started calling it "Eternal bond". There was even some interview Yoshi-P was asked something about marriage, and he said something like "please don't call it that, its an eternal bond" like he really didn't want anyone to think there is gay marriage in the game.

ty been a long time since that interview and i can't recall it i am glad to be part of a community that outright said to put same sex EB in and grateful to the devs to actually put it in knowing it might stir up controversy.

[BillyKaplan]

He might mean they were saying they would start with only opposite-sex marriage, and that they might add same sex later: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

TY for that. As I said I wasn't here for that, I just know of a very angry thread from a good while ago, that was along the lines of "what next, they'll let us marry our chocobos?"