Valentine's event 2019 info released

[BillyKaplan]

Yeah, I know. That tagline is clearly a CYA while they tease us with a couple of blushing, shiny young anime style women in romantic poses. In a game that already includes an openly gay couple in one quest line and allows for same sex "bonding" I'm not sure what the problem on SE's end would be at this point. The die is long since cast.

A side quest with plausible deniability, and user actions SE doesn't have to advocate in favor of or even openly support. Kind of like the male bunny outfit, people asked for it enough and now it's out there, doesn't mean SE likes it or cares for it outside the occasional gag in bad taste.

[Camiie]

A side quest with plausible deniability, and user actions SE doesn't have to advocate in favor of or even openly support. Kind of like the male bunny outfit, people asked for it enough and now it's out there, doesn't mean SE likes it or cares for it outside the occasional gag in bad taste.

Pretty weak argument considering all of that is content they willingly included and could have easily avoided if they'd wanted.

[BillyKaplan]

Pretty weak argument considering all of that is content they willingly included and could have easily avoided if they'd wanted.

Being asked about the bunny outfit to the point of being hounded in PLLs, Fanfests and even when he logs into the game isn't something so easily avoided. Now, I wasn't here for when they eventually added same-sex EBs, but they didn't add them out of the box. And if they really wanted to be allies, we'd have gotten more than that flimsy barely a maybe in the WP quests.

[Brynne]

I wasn't here for when they eventually added same-sex EBs, but they didn't add them out of the box.

EB have always allowed you to bond with whoever you want, so I don't know what you mean by "out of the box". Sure, in-game marriage wasn't a thing at launch, but they never released "only opposite genders" EB. They maintained plausible deniability by not calling it marriage and letting you pick whether you kiss or not at the end, so you can make it just a "friendship" bond if you want.

[alimdia]

Now, I wasn't here for when they eventually added same-sex EBs, but they didn't add them out of the box.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. EB had no race or sex restrictions right out of the box.

[Ariane]

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. EB had no race or sex restrictions right out of the box.

He might mean they were saying they would start with only opposite-sex marriage, and that they might add same sex later: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

It wasn't until people protested that, they changed their minds. And I think that's when they started calling it "Eternal bond". There was even some interview Yoshi-P was asked something about marriage, and he said something like "please don't call it that, its an eternal bond" like he really didn't want anyone to think there is gay marriage in the game.

[Crushnight]

He might mean they were saying they would start with only opposite-sex marriage, and that they might add same sex later: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

It wasn't until people protested that, they changed their minds. And I think that's when they started calling it "Eternal bond". There was even some interview Yoshi-P was asked something about marriage, and he said something like "please don't call it that, its an eternal bond" like he really didn't want anyone to think there is gay marriage in the game.

ty been a long time since that interview and i can't recall it i am glad to be part of a community that outright said to put same sex EB in and grateful to the devs to actually put it in knowing it might stir up controversy.

[BillyKaplan]

He might mean they were saying they would start with only opposite-sex marriage, and that they might add same sex later: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IV-Q-A-Summary

TY for that. As I said I wasn't here for that, I just know of a very angry thread from a good while ago, that was along the lines of "what next, they'll let us marry our chocobos?"

[Umeikoai]

A side Kind of like the male bunny outfit, people asked for it enough and now it's out there, doesn't mean SE likes it or cares for it outside the occasional gag in bad taste.

I like the male bunny suit. I wear it quite a lot. In my opinion I think Square Enix should just have sets how they are intended to look regardless of gender. Like a skirt shouldn't magically turn into pants like on so many sets. There's barely any glamour outfits that is a skirt and longsocks for males at all. The male counterparts of a lot of glamour outfits go unused because quite frankly they are usually ugly. Like the supposed male equivalent of the Quaintrelles Dress or the weird Pants when males wear the Spring Bottoms.

[Crushnight]

Have to ask where did the whole SE aren't inclusive came from as far as i have seen they pretty are in ffxiv, the EB was asked for it as soon as they announced the service and they didn't shy away they added it SE are being cautious due to how we in the West are about things they add things gradually base on demand there are few npcs that are around that are never stated but you can tell are LGBTQ+ just like real life we are there but not everyone has their presence known