The Unfortunate Nexus: PLDs Who Forgot to Soulglaze One or the Other

[Donjo]

I've heard of three instances of the following situation happening: For some reason or another, a PLD has either the Sword or Shield at Nexus, and not both. One was confirmed to be because the player forgot to Soulglaze the Shield entirely, instead assuming that both the Sword and Shield were glazed at the same time. The other two were just people I saw Light Farming with a Nexus in one hand and a Novus in the other.

Both the Sword and the Shield individually require 2000 Light to be attuned. It is thus ideal to have both equipped at once at all moments in which Light can be awarded as it is given to both at once. Any PLD in the situation of having one Nexus but not the other has gotten 2000 light. They've completed the same amount of grind that any other job must, and it was just a mistake that the other wasn't attuned at the same time.

This is a 35-40 hour mistake. Do you think it would be remiss or unfair if SE were to, say, give PLDs who made this mistake a free "make the other tool Nexus" token to prevent them from having to farm up to 2000 more light than any other class because of this mistake?

[chrillix]

I think that would be fair, as I can see many people making that mistake.

[gornotck]

Why would you assume that they both happen at the same time if you're not using both at the same time?

[RockGodOne]

I agree with gorn. If you don't have the novus equipped, why do you think you get light towards it?

I would be completely against this idea as it is very unfair to everyone else.

"Oops I 'forgot' to equip my Novus shield and opted to wear a higher level shield instead so it's easier for me to get light. Can I get my light for my relic anyway?"

People would abuse that. You don't reward people for making mistakes. Otherwise they would never learn from them.

[Braxibear]

I know someone that did this on my server....I feel a bit bad. I myself didn't realize until i had 100 light on the sword that the shield needed to be soulglazed also so I didn't get hurt too badly. I do think the quest needs to be changed and addressed that BOTH need to be soulglazed or automatically soul glaze them both. Heck a pop up box saying, "This is to only soulglaze the curtana. Are you sure?" would be suffice.

For those who missed thier chance, **inserts Jay-Z song pun** Live and learn.

[RockGodOne]

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[Coatl]

The option to soulglaze the holy shield Novus is RIGHT below soulglazing the curtana Novus. I'm not sure how you could miss that unless you were in an extreme rush or something. :I

[Donjo]

I agree with gorn. If you don't have the novus equipped, why do you think you get light towards it?

I would be completely against this idea as it is very unfair to everyone else.

"Oops I 'forgot' to equip my Novus shield and opted to wear a higher level shield instead so it's easier for me to get light. Can I get my light for my relic anyway?"

People would abuse that. You don't reward people for making mistakes. Otherwise they would never learn from them.

My argument here is that a Paladin who has done this has still obtained 2000 Light and done the same amount of grind as any other Job is required to do. Screwing up the process somehow currently forces them to get up to 4000 at the most extreme case. No other job is subject to this sort of situation. This wouldn't be able to be abused to let a Paladin get their Nexus faster than other jobs; they still need 2000 Light on one or the other.

Realizing that you have to spend 35+ hours grinding out the other item after you've finished the first is not the kind of punishment that makes someone learn from a mistake. It's the kind of punishment that makes someone quit the game entirely.

But, if you still don't like this idea... how about a compromise? If a PLD is wielding a soulglazed Novus at the same time as a Nexus, all light gains are multiplied by some amount. It would at least make the "punishment" grind smaller.

[Ryel]

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And yet Paladin has been in this unique situation through almost every stage of the relic quest, from having a different set of Animus books for both sword AND shield to needing to meld both separately with materia for Novus.

Rushing through the quest and not paying attention when the prior steps before it use a similar formula is beyond a simple mistake, as you said yourself that's 30-40+ hours of work put in, i would imagine at any point they would have come across another Paladin with the sword and shield equipped for light farming and realized you needed both.

While this seems extremely unfortunate (and probably rare) it wouldn't really be right to just give them a free pass for basically not paying attention to the quest and rushing along.

[Fynlar]

I think some people here are missing the point. It's not that people want to cheat the system by using a stronger shield or whatever (seriously, it's not like that many shields are better than a novus shield anyway, and most of the people that have better shields probably don't give a hoot about nexus anyway) but that something like this is potentially easy to overlook considering how there was one earlier step of the upgrade path that treated the sword/shield as a set.

"Oops I 'forgot' to equip my Novus shield and opted to wear a higher level shield instead so it's easier for me to get light.

You already can do things like acquire atma/alexandrite from FATEs without needing the shield equipped (it's linked only to having the sword equipped) so it's not like this would be something totally unprecedented.

I think, at the very least, a warning should pop up when you soulglaze one saying that it applies solely to that one and not the other. If someone still manages to miss that, then...