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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Er, what? The Padjal are essentially Hyuran. Why would they be classified as a beast tribe?

    I don't have the second lore book yet. What does it actually say?
    Lore book 2 page 250:
    The Padjal
    "There are none in Eorzea so foolish as to suggest the wise Padjali leaders of Gridania might be of inferior stock.Yet if we are to compartmentalize the realm's denizens based on whether they are to be counted amongst the five races, then where does that leave the Seedseers? Their fawn-like horns, their ceased aging, their ability to commune with the elementals, are all traits more commonly associated with those peoples dishonored with the 'beastman' designation."
    It hints that they should be classed as beastman without stating it due to the lore books always taken from the perspective of a living being on Hydalen and calling leaders of a nation beastmen would just be disastrous for one's health
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Lore book 2 page 250:
    The Padjal
    "There are none in Eorzea so foolish as to suggest the wise Padjali leaders of Gridania might be of inferior stock.Yet if we are to compartmentalize the realm's denizens based on whether they are to be counted amongst the five races, then where does that leave the Seedseers? Their fawn-like horns, their ceased aging, their ability to commune with the elementals, are all traits more commonly associated with those peoples dishonored with the 'beastman' designation."
    It hints that they should be classed as beastman without stating it due to the lore books always taken from the perspective of a living being on Hydalen and calling leaders of a nation beastmen would just be disastrous for one's health
    I don't think it's intended to suggest that the Padjal are a beast tribe - just (supposedly) a highlighting of how arbitrary the line between men and beastmen might be.

    It's a poor example in any case, that seems at odds with a lot of other lore - even with their horns, they look more "human" than some of the major races. We have - or will soon have - other horned races (Au Ra) and long-lived races (Viera), and the conjurer questline makes it clear that not only Padjals are able to commune with the elementals. Sylphie is clearly a normal Hyuran, and you are directed to take your early lessons from other Hyuran and Elezen conjurers who are particularly attuned to that element's elementals.

    Miqo'te or Au Ra would have been a much better example of a race with "beastman-like" features.

    In any case the actual rule of the division seems quite clear to me: races with human-like faces are considered men, others are beastmen. (Lalafells are probably a borderline case by that definition, come to think of it....)
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    These things are extremely unsettling looking.
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    It's in the part of the book that asks what really separates beastmen from the non beastmen and uses the Padjal as an example. I think the Tengu are only classed that way due to the fact that no one has seen them without a mask on either real of illusion.
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    Hes clearly inspired by Falco
    But Botw races are the best they have been since OoT

    Botw Rito are way more interesting for the fact they can be different birds
    Kass is a parrot
    The leader is a owl
    Revalli is a pheasant


    Playable fish race when though
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    What furry race do you identify as?
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    If they added cute harpy bird race I would change. Still have a fantasia saving for new cute race when happens.
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    PGY-3 Family Medicine resident.
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    They have a bird race in The Gold Saucer.
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