Griever

[Duskane]

I agree it's somewhat of a cliched class, and you're right in it being effectively redundant - there are already gunblade-like weapons in the game (Lightning's Blazefire Sabre from FFXIII is a GLA/PLD sword and many of the MCH's 'knifelock' type guns look like gunblades with a long bayonet attached to the barrel), so it's really superflorous anyway. But I guess we'll find out one way or the other in the next couple of months.

Its still really stupid to say why have gunblade when we have a weapon skin or a class that uses a gun with no slashing or explosive attacks from the barrel at all,
When jobs obviously have there own flare to them.

"You want gunblade lol just glamor lightnings weapon on paladin but you can't shoot or explode but its the same thing right"

[Zeich]

Its still really stupid to say why have gunblade when we have a weapon skin or a class that uses a gun with no slashing or explosive attacks from the barrel at all,
When jobs obviously have there own flare to them.

"You want gunblade lol just glamor lightnings weapon on paladin but you can't shoot or explode but its the same thing right"

The thing is that the iconic game for the gunblade, FFVIII, doesn't actually have shooting or exploding with the gunblade. If I remember correctly how it worked, it didn't fire a projectile; pulling the trigger simply triggered the "shot," which set the entire blade to reverberating, and that vibrating blade inside a target being slashed through dealt critical damage by simply ripping through the target rather than a clean cut. You didn't fire an actual bullet--there was no projectile launched at all.

In that sense, Lightning's gunblade is the most true to the idea of a "sword that shoots as well."

[Duskane]

The thing is that the iconic game for the gunblade, FFVIII, doesn't actually have shooting or exploding with the gunblade. If I remember correctly how it worked, it didn't fire a projectile; pulling the trigger simply triggered the "shot," which set the entire blade to reverberating, and that vibrating blade inside a target being slashed through dealt critical damage by simply ripping through the target rather than a clean cut. You didn't fire an actual bullet--there was no projectile launched at all.

In that sense, Lightning's gunblade is the most true to the idea of a "sword that shoots as well."

Well if you take a look at Squall in Dissidia he does a lot of explosion/blast effects do come from the Gunblade with most of his attacks.

[Seraphor]

..Was gunblade actually confirmed? I personally think it's a stupid idea for a class. You have Machinist, you dont need an entire class surrounding a stupid and impractical weapon like "Gunblade". Rdm and Machinist fit in to those roles anyway, RDM beign ranged + melee and Machinist having Guns.

As a DPS, I'd agree, however it'd be a interesting and popular tank class to mix up the current selection of 'angry' and 'magic' big slasher jobs.
So yeah, this is precisely why I dont want it to be a DPS class.

[Burningskull]

I want the gunblade job to be a DPS... if it is you guys can have every other job that comes out after as a tank or healer... pretty please?

[Hasrat]

Honestly, tho, wtf was even the deal with Griever? "That pendant that has been completely inconsequential to the game? Yeah, let's turn it into a big monster boss."

[Burningskull]

Honestly, tho, wtf was even the deal with Griever? "That pendant that has been completely inconsequential to the game? Yeah, let's turn it into a big monster boss."

It was the name of the Lion on Squalls Ring, etching on Squall's Gunblade, and on his Gunblade case. In the final fight Ultemicia looked into Squall's mind and made it real as her GF. Maybe she thought Squall wouldn't be able to kill something he loved or maybe she thought something from the person that beat her would be strong enough to beat them. But it looked really cool.

[TheHeavenAbyss]

Honestly, tho, wtf was even the deal with Griever? "That pendant that has been completely inconsequential to the game? Yeah, let's turn it into a big monster boss."

I agree. But if Ultimecia was Rinoa it would make sense for her to summon Squall's spirit animal and that plot point would serve the purpose of making that connection. But I won't open that can of worms here, I don't think Griever being summoned means much lol

He still looks cool though, and I wouldn't mind seeing him as a trial.

[Seraphor]

It was the name of the Lion on Squalls Ring, etching on Squall's Gunblade, and on his Gunblade case. In the final fight Ultemicia looked into Squall's mind and made it real as her GF. Maybe she thought Squall wouldn't be able to kill something he loved or maybe she thought something from the person that beat her would be strong enough to beat them. But it looked really cool.

It was Squalls idol, it personified strength for him, so therefore followed that in his mind it would be the most powerful creature and he'd be unable to beat it.
The symbolism is about him holding himself to an unattainably high benchmark, that he's unable to accomplish on his own.

[Hasrat]

It was Squalls idol, it personified strength for him, so therefore followed that in his mind it would be the most powerful creature and he'd be unable to beat it.
The symbolism is about him holding himself to an unattainably high benchmark, that he's unable to accomplish on his own.

Ok, 8's loopy story aside (relax, just joking at the rest of the conversation), I just didn't feel like the game did enough to establish this significance. I may have forgotten something, it's been a while, but I can really only remember one point in the game where it's seriously discussed. And even then, it still sorta falls short of establishing just how highly Squall thinks of it. "It's just a bit of jewelry that I thought looked cool, and I gave it a bit of anthropomorphization in my head as the sort of badass thing I thought it would be." It still comes off as goofy that it turned out to be a boss at the end. Maybe if we ever found some drawing Squall did of his fursona, or it came up more that he used it as a personal talisman for strength, or something.

Idk. As weird as 8 got, I was able to roll with most of it, sort kept up with everything. But for me, Griever in particular always stood out as a "Wait, what's going on, why am I fighting this?" moment.

At least it wasn't as bad as Necron in 9, tho.