whats wrong with wow?

[Mr_Gyactus]

Oh please. Are you talking about wow in FF14 forum?
Anyway there is nothing wrong in wow, simply someone prefer coke, comeone pepsi, someone orange juice and someone beer.
What I don't like in wow is you are running as a hamster in your wheel alone for all the game. The group content is only the instances, raid and some (rare) quest.
Do you like playing alone? I like too, but not in a so called "MMO".
Just think, why does people say "the real game in wow starts when you are at level cap"?

[Giant]

Oh please. Are you talking about wow in FF14 forum?
Anyway there is nothing wrong in wow, simply someone prefer coke, comeone pepsi, someone orange juice and someone beer.
What I don't like in wow is you are running as a hamster in your wheel alone for all the game. The group content is only the instances, raid and some (rare) quest.
Do you like playing alone? I like too, but not in a so called "MMO".
Just think, why does people say "the real game in wow starts when you are at level cap"?

I second that

[Malakhim]

I've played WoW on and off for about 5 months total pre- and post-Burning Crusade(never cared to give it a go post-Lich King or Cataclysm). I've been a fan of Warcraft, though admittedly not as much as Final Fantasy, since I played the original back in the mid-90's('94 I think), so I'm hardly an authority on WoW as I just have past experience to go on.

From my own personal experience, I can say that while WoW did several things that FFXI definitely did not(such as streamlining questing and offering rewards you cared about), the game had too many hiccups for me to really get involved. For one, within the streamlining and abundance of quest content all the way 'til at least lvl.45(which is when I retired my rogue for good), I found a nasty side-effect to my playing: I never felt the need to interact with another player at all, and thus the world felt very much barren at all times. It also didn't help that thanks to the lower than dirt system reqs and habit of dishing out rewards and xp for every little thing, as well as the game's subject matter itself that it pretty much attracted the lowest common denominator of intelligent life on the internet(not a statement against the entire community), and as such I usually regretted trying to interact with the people I DID see anyway.

I'm big on world aesthetics. In order for me to really get into a game, it needs to hook me with great visual direction, graphics, and music. I need to be able to log on and say "man, this world really gets to me". I didn't mind WoW's visual style all that much, being that it's just an extension of Warcraft III's own style, which is much more humorous in nature. If you want to mobs turning into hapless cartoon sheep and see goblins acting stupid and running eachother off the road(which is my only knowledge about content in Cataclysm), then this is the game for you. It isn't however the kind of experience I'd want to be playing all the time. The trend of using bits of what to me is uninspired "western fantasy filler" music on differing intervals also doesn't do much to alleviate my aforementioned "dead world" issue. Admittedly this comes from my predominantly console-based history, but I need to "feel" an emotion when I walk into a place, like walking into Coerthas in FFXIV or Xarcabard and Kazham in FFXI. Hell, I can't wait to ride a chocobo in FFXIV simply because of the theme, which has a total "wild west frontiersman" feel to it.

This one is a bit strange, but in many MMOs(including WoW), I never really appreciated the enemy encounter system. It always just felt like "here's a random mob, now start poking at it until it falls down". Thanks to the encounter system of FFXI, which emulates the encounters in other FF games as best it can in that the camera closes in on the target and there's an instanced battle theme, I feel much more involved than I did playing Granado Espada, WoW, Guild Wars or any other MMO I've also played. Another huge draw to me, again due to my console history, is the lack of controller support for WoW. There are plenty of valid arguments as to why this is, but as Sigmund Freud once said, "the mind knows nothing of the workings of neurons", and objective arguments hardly have any place in the subjective. I just feel better using a controller. In line with that I just find that the user interface that while functional, doesn't look particularly attractive, and is rather dull to me.

I can't comment on high-end content or guild stuff simply because I was never able to get into that stuff, as the mileage I got was enough for me to say I didn't enjoy it, but that isn't to say that WoW is a terrible game. It's a successful game in its own right that caters to its audience(an audience that I personally don't want much to do with). Personally, I wish Warcraft would go back to its roots in Real-time Strategy, but since Blizzard has their perpetual money printing device, that's probably not happening for a long while. In fact, I'm willing to bet that WoW's success is going to have a negative impact on their new MMO(codenamed "Titan"), but that's a post for another thread.

Final Verdict: Different strokes for different folks.