whats wrong with wow?

[Rhianu]

the system is great maybe best ever in MMO history

but the design is horrible, maybe worst in the world in my opinion

for me or everyone who more like japanese style design, WoW is really bad...

compare between this:
http://fangirlisms.com/wp-content/up...characters.jpg

and this:
http://www.wowcharacters.org/wowcharacters.jpg


how could you expect japanese or european people to accept these ugly character design?

I'm not offense, but the fact is Incredible Hulk, Juggernaut, Capt. America and another walking muscle are created for american while Dante (Devil May Cry), Solid Snake, James Bond are created for japanese and european market

I'm sorry, but your comparison there completely and utterly fails because you are comparing concept art to in-game graphics. If you want to make a fair comparison, then compare concept art to concept art, and graphics to graphics.

This is all that needs to be said about WoW( cauton F-bombs are droped here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmy7Ze18NY

But then again this was out also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDO2R...eature=related

Now things have slowly gotten better but i still agree 100% with the 1st video and that is really all that needs to be said

That first video was made by a biased and butthurt FFXI fanboy, and was posted on YouTube several months before FFXIV was even released. Honestly, how could anyone claim FFXIV was more entertaining than WoW when FFXIV hadn't even been released yet? The answer: they couldn't, at least not without being a fanboy about it.

[Seikninkuru]

Yeh never said it was bad, i have never played it so i can't judge...just never appealed to me. ^^

I inferred you were ignoratn I didnt mean that. >< Sorry.

Just so tired of wow is terrible cux xyz. How about just saying game isnt for us(luna and myself) much easier ya know? grrrr

[Rhianu]

Wow is the reason this genre is slowly dying,everyone tries to copy wow with wow clones. (WAR,AoC,Lotro,Rift,SWTOR).

Slowly dying? What are you talking about? Before WoW, the entire MMO genre was nothing but a tiny niche market that only appealed to a very small demographic. Now thanks to WoW, MMORPGs have become mainstream, and are more popular than ever.

Granted, the MMO market has indeed become saturated with WoW-clones, but that certainly doesn't mean the genre is dying, especially when you stop and take the time to consider that there are more MMOs on the market today than there have ever been before.

[Seif]

Well there's plenty of depth and more importantly plenty of very good storytelling in XI. I think that's what people expect from XIV as well. Currently the storyline is non-existent.

From what I hear from my wow addicted friends the story doesn't play that big of a role in wow nor does it have a cutscene heavy approach like XI. There's nothing wrong with that it's just that I tend to not play games that don't have a strong reason to fight for.

Like I said currently I feel the same way about XIV. I have no idea what's going on in Eorzea but generally NOTHING seems to be happening.

[Seikninkuru]

Slowly dying? What are you talking about? Before WoW, the entire MMO genre was nothing but a tiny niche market that only appealed to a very small demographic. Now thanks to WoW, MMORPGs have become mainstream, and are more popular than ever.

Granted, the MMO market has indeed become saturated with WoW-clones, but that certainly doesn't mean the genre is dying, especially when you stop and take the time to consider that there are more MMOs on the market today than there have ever been before.

More like the genre is slowly stagnating, not because of Wow either.

Its prevelant if you take away wow and just FFXI. FFXIV need to have FFXI insert feature here, the sad fact is most ppl just want FFXI with new graphics. People don't want change or anything new, it's why a game like RIFT does so well. The game isn't special but it's exactly the same as people are used to. Human imperfections are what cause these problems.

[Fensfield]

For me?

The graphics.

They aren't bad, but something about the style quite literally makes me ill x.x I tried playing it and had to quit after a half hour because the graphics were making me feel .. well frankly I felt like I'd just stumbled off a teacup ride, at least in my stomach. Yeah, I don't get on well with World of Warcraft XD

That said, though, in a more general sense? Its success. It's just.. too successful, to the point it's obliterated the industry's ability to handle teething problems in new games and caused everyone to start following it. Ragnarök Online had the same effect for a while, actually, back when it was the big thing of its time - every MMORPG out of Korea for a while was all but an RO clone with increasingly three dimensional graphics, and the vast majority of free to play MMOs - the short burn ones, cynically made with the expectation of being shut down inside a year or three the moment they start losing players, hopefully having turned a profit in the meanwhile - that come out of that region still insist on copying its system design philosophy.

So.. yeah, WoW has a problem inherent with all overly-successful MMORPGs. It stopped causing new games to grow ideas from its strong points, and instead started making developers feel they had to play to its tune if they wanted anything even resembling a profit. The only difference between WoW's success and that of RO, is it isn't just greed now so much as fear of the monolith that motivates the project directors to copy. Thank God we're finally starting to pull away from that..

[Seikninkuru]

For me?

The graphics.

They aren't bad, but something about the style quite literally makes me ill x.x I tried playing it and had to quit after a half hour because the graphics were making me feel .. well frankly I felt like I'd just stumbled off a teacup ride, at least in my stomach. Yeah, I don't get on well with World of Warcraft XD

That said, though, in a more general sense? Its success. It's just.. too successful, to the point its obliterated the industry's ability to handle teething problems in new games and caused everyone to start following it. Ragnarök Online had the same effect for a while, actually, back when it was the big thing of its time - every MMO out of Korea for a while was all but an RO clone with increasingly three dimensional graphics, and the vast majority of free to play, short burn MMOs that come out of that region still insist on copying its system design philosophy.

So.. yeah, WoW has a problem inherent with all overly-successful MMORPGs. It stopped causing new games to grow ideas from its strong points, and instead started making developers feel they had to play to its tune if they wanted anything even resembling a profit. Thank God we're finally starting to pull away from that..

I'd question if we are, any game that cones out over the next few years diff will suffer the "It's not fun what do I do fate". Ignore FF14. I have a feelin grhe only one left standing will be rift and wow, sad but true. people dont want new or innovative, which makes me think tera and gw2 will be small time compared.

[Giant]

Oh please. Are you talking about wow in FF14 forum?
Anyway there is nothing wrong in wow, simply someone prefer coke, comeone pepsi, someone orange juice and someone beer.
What I don't like in wow is you are running as a hamster in your wheel alone for all the game. The group content is only the instances, raid and some (rare) quest.
Do you like playing alone? I like too, but not in a so called "MMO".
Just think, why does people say "the real game in wow starts when you are at level cap"?

I second that

[Rhianu]

For me?

The graphics.

They aren't bad, but something about the style quite literally makes me ill x.x I tried playing it and had to quit after a half hour because the graphics were making me feel .. well frankly I felt like I'd just stumbled off a teacup ride, at least in my stomach. Yeah, I don't get on well with World of Warcraft XD

Personally, I like WoW's graphics because they have that same kind of whimsical charm that was present not only in Warcraft III, but also in FFVII and FFIX on the PS1, and FFIII on the Nintendo DS. Now obviously the technology behind WoW's graphics is far superior to any of those games, but the same type of aesthetic style is there, and it's a style that I've come to love. <3

Fantasy Earth Zero also had that same cute, stylized type of graphics, but unfortunately FEZ was a terrible game. :X

Cute graphics, though.

[Linnear]

There is nothing wrong with WoW, the problem is with people.

People think that by putting down a Westernized MMO, it makes their choice of a Eastern MMO more valid. It just makes them feel better about themselves. Or that by putting down a Popular MMO it makes their choice of a less popular more valid.

It about people taking sides and the "Team mentality". Wow is fine game. It doesnt have to be one or the other.

You see the same thing is Republican/Democrat, Muslim/Christian, Any place you can find a rivalry youll find people adamant about putting down the other.

Very well said, the team mentality doens't progress the debate on what is wrong with WoW or what WoW has that works that can help FFXIV. Just becuase WoW or FFXI are different from FFXIV does not mean that they didn't have systems that were well thought out and well planned and FFXIV can learn from.