Against cross-server groups? please...

[Onidemon]

Now this thread is target to people like me who have a real social life, work, school, gf or bf and other life obligations and that DO NOT have 8h a day to dedicate to a single video game.

Seriously cut the crap of cross-server dungeons will kill the social aspect of the game. Yes i did enjoy making parties in both FFXI and WOW(before they added cross-server auto-grouping).. It was fun and i did make a lot of friends that way. But that was way back when i was younger and had no job or anything special to do...

Now i do not have 1h+ to spend just to look for parties. 1h is pretty much the total time i can allocate to the game during a day and i don't want to waste it trying to find a party. I want to be able to login and pick up the game right away and play.

Yes some of you are hardcore gamers and spend 80% of your day in a mmo but not everyone is like that.

Also the game does not have an large enough active user base for a system where you need to look for people manually within your own server. When the game will have reached a user base above 5M and that finding a party will be quite an easy task, then i'd be glad to get rid of the cross-server system.

[Arcell]

I'm honestly pretty neutral on the topic. I too have both a job and college classes, some nights I only have 3-4 hours to play.

On the one hand I can see how it would help people who don't have a lot of time and give them a chance to at least attempt to take on the dungeon. I'm not sure how it works in other games or how it would work in this game, but if you can just get in with a preset group of your own friends/LS mates from your server then why is it even an issue? If you're not forced to do it then don't do it. Find a group on your server that you like and do it that way.

On the other hand yes it does take away consequences of being a giant asshole but that's just how people are. With or without this feature those people will still exist and they will still act that way. Maybe to a slightly lesser extent since word on a server can travel fast but it can still come back to them.

As long as it is an option, I'm 100% okay with it existing. I'll probably never make use of it even if it does exist as long as I can just take an LS group in.

[Onidemon]

I'm honestly pretty neutral on the topic. I too have both a job and college classes, some nights I only have 3-4 hours to play.

On the one hand I can see how it would help people who don't have a lot of time and give them a chance to at least attempt to take on the dungeon. I'm not sure how it works in other games or how it would work in this game, but if you can just get in with a preset group of your own friends/LS mates from your server then why is it even an issue? If you're not forced to do it then don't do it. Find a group on your server that you like and do it that way.

On the other hand yes it does take away consequences of being a giant asshole but that's just how people are. With or without this feature those people will still exist and they will still act that way. Maybe to a slightly lesser extent since word on a server can travel fast but it can still come back to them.

As long as it is an option, I'm 100% okay with it existing. I'll probably never make use of it even if it does exist as long as I can just take an LS group in.

3-4 hours a night? Lucky you.... If you had a gf that would be 3-4h a week... if you live with her that becomes 3-4h a month...

[Verecund]

There's already been a fairly popular thread on this subject....

[Arcell]

Well I am in the unfortunate state of "single" but I'm not too bothered by it. We actually have quite a few married/engaged people in our LS and most of them find time to play at least every other day. Most of them have at least one day everyone knows they won't be online at all. It really depends on how the relationship works though, some partners are more understanding than others, especially if they play too

[Jibe]

I play 2-3 hours per night tops, I work full time. I am against cross server grouping in any way, shape or form.

I was pretty happy with where Yoshi was taking this game, and this is the first "deal breaker" for me. If this is implemented I probably will quit. Not an ultimatum, just a fact. Please, Yoshi, reconsider.

I played WoW with the cross server dungeons and I can testify to the problems it caused. I won't go into them because they have been mentioned manifold on other posts/threads, but they are there folks, and they are real. Cross server stuff turned a significant portion of the WoW community into flaming jerks, don't let that happen to FF14, please.

EDIT: My sig pic appears to be broken! WTF

[Sojiro]

3-4 hours a night? Lucky you.... If you had a gf that would be 3-4h a week... if you live with her that becomes 3-4h a month...

I'm married with 3 kids and can get about 3 hours a night assuming we aren't doing anything. Weekends can be more or less, although all of this is not set in stone and sometimes it can be more or less on any night just depending on what goes on. I want to clarify now though, I don't always throw 100% of my free time to this game though lol.

Also agreed with others, there is a thread for and against cross server parties already, no need for a new thread.

[Tonka]

I was going to reply to you here but I think I'll follow your lead and just make another new thread.

[REDace0]

Despite the confrontational nature of the discussion here, this essentially expresses some of my feelings on the matter. For instanced content, as long as the server-side implementation won't slow down development too much, I see no reason to not allow cross-server cooperation so long as it is optional. I honestly have no expectation that any of the proposed downsides of this will happen, and the upsides are many: reducing wait time, letting players from different servers meet, permitting the dev team to design larger instances, knowing that nearly any reasonable number of parties will be frequently available.

[Onidemon]

I play 2-3 hours per night tops, I work full time. I am against cross server grouping in any way, shape or form.

I was pretty happy with where Yoshi was taking this game, and this is the first "deal breaker" for me. If this is implemented I probably will quit. Not an ultimatum, just a fact. Please, Yoshi, reconsider.

I played WoW with the cross server dungeons and I can testify to the problems it caused. I won't go into them because they have been mentioned manifold on other posts/threads, but they are there folks, and they are real. Cross server stuff turned a significant portion of the community into flaming jerks, don't let that happen to FF14, please.

Yet WOW is 15m players strong and counting. Also Blizzard didn't remove this options nor did they make any modifications to it over the years. So i guess it didn't hurt WOW at all.. why would it hurt FFXIV then?

I think not being able to find a party withing max 20min is what will kill FFXIV. A lot more people will be turned off by the countless hours trying to find a party then by some jerk who will ninja their goods.

Look at it this way....

15-20min to find a party, at the end someone ninja your item. Reaction? oh well it sucks a lot but i'll get another shot in 15min.

1h-1:30h to find a party, at the end someone ninja your item. Reaction? f*@$ this game i'm done.