whats wrong with wow?

[Linnear]

WoW is actually harder than XI in a lot of respects, it is just that XI was much more curel. WoW raid boses were dynamic, engaging and tough with gear available before you killed the boss. a dungoen comes out and NONE of the 14 million players that paly it compelte the dungion before 3-4 months is not an easy game.

AV and PW were masochistic hatefull bastards with 0 clues to how to kill them and the penalties for failure where so harsh that the rewards were not worth the substantial effort to learn their mechanics. THe mechanics might not even be that hard but getting 30+ people together to try to Kill AV considering the farming for the mats, the death penalties and the general headach was not worth it so AV didn't die without exploits, that does not make a game hard either, it makes it just cruel and mean.

Prommy missions were challenging, Nyzul floors were challenging, Einherjar was interesting but needed more mechanics other than basic unavoidable AOE damage from boses.

Basically WoW had little penalty for failure so they could make the boses have some really interesting mechanics, were FFXI was unforgiving so in order to beat the boss before suicide, the boss needed to be relativly easy. (remember a kid died trying to kill PW) If your saying wow is just easier than FFXI then you never palyed WoW at the higher levels, jsut becuase FF beats on noobies done'st make it harder, just meaner.

[Sushi]

WoW is actually harder than XI in a lot of respects, it is just that XI was much more curel.

speaks the truth!

wow is harder but everything is faster including questing ,boss killing , and leveling

ffxi is the opposite easy mode and everything is slow!!!

ppl always mix the concepts of slow and hard. they think slower = harder

not it's not. cruel is a better word for FF11

[Betelgeuzah]

WoW: Cartoonish

FF: Classy.

That's the main difference what people feel is "wrong" with WoW. And it's just a preference issue, yet still important.

When Yoshida started making changes, people were offended because some of the changes removed some of the "classiness" of the game. The aggro icon felt cartoonish, and so did some of the larger monster models.

Personally I did like the way they did the quest icon, as it wasn't a huge yellow exclamation mark but something more subtle and not in-your-face (and you can't even see it if you're not close enough). That's the kind of thing people are looking for.

[Laughlyn]

lol i know DR, man first few weeks of FFXIV when it was released that just pissed me off,
so many going: /pst, LFG, LFC (lookin for crack...) idk j/k....
it wasnt hard at all to see who was playing what before they ended up here.

However it did effect everyone still playing it now (until recent events), only way to get the new
ppl to understand is to either explain everything from scratch because obviously
they dont bother reading manuals or the New user guides SE put up on lodestone.

I hope they re-release the game with a better / useful manual for the new people.
And i hope they use the material they been posting on the Lodestone aswell.

Including a FF mmo lingo guide lol

[Linnear]

Omnitron in blues was challenging and interesting, Hard modes for a lot of bosses still haven't been succeeded globally in 10 man form after 5 months, I think that says something about the game mechanics, also peopel are still strying, I have never seen any NA LS on Ifrit, Sylph or Titan ever try AV or PW. If you try and fail and want to try agian for 2 months, the devs did a good job, longer then that and people give up, I don't think you get to say it isn't hard at that point, if you need 50+ tries to kill a boss. I wonder if anyone in FF history tried to kill AV or PW more than 20 times before refusing to ever go back to it.

[NefarioCall]

I played WoW for several months. While i fully understand why it is so successful, i just never liked it as much as FFXI. In fact, i never really liked WoW at all.

[Chardrizard]

WoW players hates FFXI players and vice versa, also this haters (from both side) never actually touched 80% of the other game..

from my point of view (i played FFXI for 6years before someone goin to call me a WoW-fanboy):
WoW is alot harder and engaging than FFXI, but i never really preferred WoW's graphical style and world, mostly because i played another FF series which i can easily relates to when i played FFXI.

Both games has pro/cons, it just matters of preferences, calling one better than another is just plain ignorance.

[Fiosha_Maureiba]

Computer crashed, post gone, haven't read thread, response to OP.

Players will have their preferences for games they play, develop prejudices for other games for one reason or another, played or unplayed.

In my opinion, Blizzard has set genre standards for what interfaces should be: Flowing and intuitive. Blizzard has incorporated popular user customizations and suggestions to evolve its interface.

To put a different perspective on this: WoW is the Justin Bieber of MMORPGs. Do guys hate Justin Bieber? Or do they hate the way his fans behave and the way his fans belittle non-fans and their musical interests? These guys start to associate negativity with Bieber himself and in turn, anything Bieber does, guys hate it, whether they listen to the song or not.

WoW community very different prior to the South Park episode that made WoW mainstream. Other MMORPG players didn't care about WoW bashing until WoW became Justin Bieber. And in my opinion, WoW bashing tends to bring out such a negativity in people that I find it detrimental to building a new community. I'd rather we be united in our hopes, goals, and love of FFXIV.

[Abriael]

What's wrong with wow?

Simple: It's the same re-heated, stale soup we've been swallowing since 10 years ago (since it just re-enacted trite mechanics from previous games). I have a fairly long attention spam, but after that much time playing the same stuff, I can't help being bored to death by it.

[Keith_Dragoon]

I played WoW a few months prior to Burning Crusades, I got 70 I did the endgame and it was just dull you level you raid you pvp. Aside from PVP everything was done the exact same way week after week and its got really boring I quit just after BT released.

I returned to WoW for Wraith and the exact same thing happened except I quit b4 IIC released.

Finally I came back for Cataclysm, by far the best expansion of them all but the game remained the same, I got 85 I did heroics, I did pvp, I did raids all still boring all still exactly as before.

After 3 tries I have given up on WoW. Its not a bad game but its not the game for me, I need a game that constantly evolves that everyday/everyweek the content isn't rolled out the same way to the T. In XI I found that, I was able to level do sky/sea/limbus/dyna/abyssea/etc and stuff seemed to refresh itself in a way I guess cause you can fully ckear dynamis then limbus then abyssea then salvage, einherjar and everything in a single night only to repeat it next week.

So content seemed to be more exciting. in wow you get like 2-3 raids that after a few months become farm mode where you just go for the hell of it or aim for the 1% super rare drops.

Summary: WoW to me is too repetitive and easy therefor I dislike it.

speaks the truth!

wow is harder but everything is faster including questing ,boss killing , and leveling

ffxi is the opposite easy mode and everything is slow!!!

ppl always mix the concepts of slow and hard. they think slower = harder

not it's not. cruel is a better word for FF11

How is WoW harder?