whats wrong with wow?

[Shaolin]

What I found wrong with WoW was there is a VERY lacking sense of accomplishment in that game compared to FFXI up until Abyssea.

I also dislike how they pretty much killed off the social aspects of the game by making it solo heavy in the part that matters of an MMO which because WoW got popular and sparked interest in the mainstream crowd in the west, became the "standard" for MMOs to follow, thus basically killing off what MUD/MMOs used to be about.

I can agree with that. In FF14 when the skill ups were random, I grinded hours in 8-15 man parties and had a blast till 41. I then had to do 41-50 duo cause parties got killed outside leves on my server from the nov sp change. It became very boring (WoW like) doing those last few ranks, but I needed 50 to help LS with nm's. After I got to 50, it's been all group stuff for me (NM's, Leve parties and group sp on other jobs, ect..) Parties is where it's at for the fun imo.

I also liked the fact that in 11 most people when they got to cap. They pretty much knew how to play their job properly. In WoW people would be completely clueless on how to play their class in raid group cause they'd solo to cap.

[Eolrid]

Short answer: There's nothing wrong with WoW. It's just another game. I mean, I'm not a fan, but it seems to get a lot of unjustified hate from people because of all the "WoW clones" out there, even though that's more the fault of other developers and their lack of creativity/surplus of greed than it is WoW's.

That's really a problem with the MMO scene in general: it's too political.

That said, I'm not interested in Square Enix following the beat of WoW's drum. If I wanted to play WoW, I would. But I don't, because games of that type (this includes WoW, EQ, LotRO, Rift, etc.) feel hollow and lifeless to me.

Is FFXIV any better? Maybe, maybe not. I get a better sense of freedom out of it, and as empty and lacking in content as it is, it at least seems a bit more like a world, in my opinion.

I'm not saying SE should totally isolate themselves from looking at what works/doesn't work in the MMO market, but if we want any real progress in the genre, companies are going to have to start thinking for themselves again (and, say what you will about FFXIV's current state, at least it's different).

[Kira75]

Short answer: There's nothing wrong with WoW. It's just another game. I mean, I'm not a fan, but it seems to get a lot of unjustified hate from people because of all the "WoW clones" out there, even though that's more the fault of other developers and their lack of creativity/surplus of greed than it is WoW's.

That's really a problem with the MMO scene in general: it's too political.

That said, I'm not interested in Square Enix following the beat of WoW's drum. If I wanted to play WoW, I would. But I don't, because games of that type (this includes WoW, EQ, LotRO, Rift, etc.) feel hollow and lifeless to me.

Is FFXIV any better? Maybe, maybe not. I get a better sense of freedom out of it, and as empty and lacking in content as it is, it at least seems a bit more like a world, in my opinion.

I'm not saying SE should totally isolate themselves from looking at what works/doesn't work in the MMO market, but if we want any real progress in the genre, companies are going to have to start thinking for themselves again (and, say what you will about FFXIV's current state, at least it's different).

Well said, I couldn't agree more. One of the greatest things about this game is its uniqueness, take that away and its just another clone with no purpose.

[Ostia]

Well said, I couldn't agree more. One of the greatest things about this game is its uniqueness, take that away and its just another clone with no purpose.

The only thing that's actually different is the armory system....... So much for such an unique game.....

[DarkRain]

This is all that needs to be said about WoW( cauton F-bombs are droped here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmy7Ze18NY

But then again this was out also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDO2R...eature=related

Now things have slowly gotten better but i still agree 100% with the 1st video and that is really all that needs to be said

[Laughlyn]

This is all that needs to be said about WoW( cauton F-bombs are droped here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmy7Ze18NY

lol that FFXIV vs WoW video is awesome

[DarkRain]

lol that FFXIV vs WoW video is awesome

LOL yes , yes it is!

I did want to add reaLLY THE BEST THING ABOUT ffxiv vS WoW is this

FFXIV has ben out now 6months and i have yet to pay one red cent to play it end fanboy,troll,flame war now!

[Shaolin]

This is all that needs to be said about WoW( cauton F-bombs are droped here)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpmy7Ze18NY

But then again this was out also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDO2R...eature=related

Now things have slowly gotten better but i still agree 100% with the 1st video and that is really all that needs to be said

I'm personally partial to this vid, but yeah both those vids just show that it all depends on the person and their view on things.

Warning: cursing in this vid also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLppb80xYc

[DarkRain]

I'm personally partial to this vid, but yeah both those vids just show that it all depends on the person and their view on things.

Warning: cursing in this vid also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLppb80xYc

LMAO that was fuuny also. True but yeah im still going to play everyone knows how wrong Hittler was

[Kimowar]

first I hate the term "WoW Clone" when in fact wow copied many of its aspects and features from other mmo's, theres nothing in wow that wasnt done before it, for me wow is a very solid mmo, however, they did what eq, ac, daoc, ao and ffxi were doing and then dumbed it down, this is a big reason for wow's success, anyone could get on and feel like they were kicking butt, it also attracted alot of kids and adults with child mentality, people who would have never succeeded in old everquest, so in closing there isnt anything wrong with playing wow if thats what you want from a game, I just prefer to work on my rpg's