As an FFXI player, thank you for Limited Jobs and BLU SE

[QT_Melon]

The AFK player, in general, returns at some point to actually participate in content.

Breaking news. It doesn't need to affect my gameplay in order for me to see and discuss the flaws in it's design.

That's not a Blue Mage flaw? What is the difference?

They can learn a spell but if only they hit the mob and be alive.

Any other role can also do the following (though in fairness so can a Blue but this problem occurred before Blue)
You can still win a pony if you're dead and AFK, loot on items, unlock further content and story and achievements.

So yeah it's petty to worry about this being a Blue Mage problem.

[whiskeybravo]

That's not a Blue Mage flaw? What is the difference?

They can learn a spell but if only they hit the mob and be alive.

Any other role can also do the following (though in fairness so can a Blue but this problem occurred before Blue)
You can still win a pony if you're dead and AFK, loot on items, unlock further content and story and achievements.

So yeah it's petty to worry about this being a Blue Mage problem.

You're purposefully being dense at this point. Best of luck.

[QT_Melon]

No, not at all.

Basically you're blaming a symptom for the cause.
There is no difference if the flaw was there before Blue Mage. It has just even LESS impact on gameplay.

[whiskeybravo]

Basically you're blaming a symptom for the cause.

If you really accept that, the next logical step is accepting that BLU has brought out the worst in the community. So you can add that to my list of 3 reasons why I disagree on the concept and viability of future limited jobs.

[QT_Melon]

If you really accept that, the next logical step is accepting that BLU has brought out the worst in the community. So you can add that to my list of 3 reasons why I disagree on the concept and viability of future limited jobs.

No, that would be making a big leap in logic. You are the one making the assumption that it did.

[whiskeybravo]

You are the one making the assumption that it did.

As we sit here bickering about things we wouldn't be bickering about if there were no limited jobs... :thinking:

Yes, I think it has.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

As we sit here bickering about things we wouldn't be bickering about if there were no limited jobs... :thinking:

Yes, I think it has.

Or people can be better and not complain about things they're not forced to participate in...

[whiskeybravo]

Or people can be better and not complain about things they're not forced to participate in...

Because releasing poorly thought out content is what you all want more of, right?

[QT_Melon]

Uhh,

We wanted to discuss issues to Blue Mage, not blame it for things that were already in the game. You know like how viable it was based off the info given.

[Palladiamors]

Or people can be better and not complain about things they're not forced to participate in...

And what about the people who wanted Blue Mage? I mean an ACTUAL Blue Mage, with a definitive goal. Or even the people who wanted their class to be a MAIN, and are angry or upset because its relegated to a mini-game that is already dead?

IF Blue Mage were a soloable class, with the Masked Carnival serving as both a measure of skill and as a place to get more rare blue mage spells or IF Blue Mage were implemented to be able to do standard duty roulette's and MSQ's but restricted from doing current end game content and only allowed after the next patch, one direction or the other, people would be a lot happier. It would either be a definite solo class or a restricted normal class that could still participate and we wouldn't have people unhappy because right now, its neither.