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    KokonoeAiyoko's Avatar
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    As an FFXI player, thank you for Limited Jobs and BLU SE

    One of my issues with this game was that the jobs being locked into only three roles made for very repetitive gameplay if you play this game for an extended period and it would also be a detriment to a job when it finally got in because limiting these jobs to these specific roles and balance of said roles would undermine the abilities they had in the past games and traits that made them unique and fun in the first place.

    I would love to see this idea fleshed out even more so, maybe even have stuff like an alternative Summoner down the road, Puppetmaster, Beastmaster, Dancer, etc.

    All in all... Thank you, SE for listening to us FFXI players. It is much appreciated.
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    Last edited by KokonoeAiyoko; 01-20-2019 at 02:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    All in all... Thank you, SE for listening to us FFXI players. It is much appreciated.
    If you want a game to be like FFXI, go play FFXI.

    FFXIV ISN'T FFXI, STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT BE.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 01-22-2019 at 11:23 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    One of my issues with this game was that the jobs being locked into only three roles made for very repetitive gameplay if you play this game for an extended period and it would also be a detriment to a job when it finally got in because limiting these jobs to these specific roles and balance of said roles would undermine the abilities they had in the past games and traits that made them unique and fun in the first place.

    I would love to see this idea fleshed out even more so, maybe even have stuff like an alternative Summoner down the road, Puppetmaster, Beastmaster, Dancer, etc.

    All in all... Thank you, SE for listening to us FFXI players. It is much appreciated.
    It's fun I'm enjoying it. Taking my time am just level 30 but not in a rush to get to 50. Something to do when i have the time with friends and it's certainly different than the same old same old. We should be getting at least two new jobs in 5.0 and with any luck possibly 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    FFXIV ISN'T FFXI
    What a shocking revelation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post

    FFXIV ISN'T FFXI


    But anyway, I don't think they are trying to make this game what it's not. They are just saying thank you for a feature they like and want more like it in the future. Calm down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    If you want a game to be like FFXI, go play FFXI.

    FFXIV ISN'T FFXI, STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT BE.
    Boo hoo. Let someone give SE a good comment about how THEY like the limited job(s). I barely played XI, haven't for over 12 years now, but I really enjoy blue. Sure it's brought out the bad side of people, like what you're currently showing, but it's brought out some good in the community with the skill swapping parties, and I'm enjoying helping other people after I've already learned the 47 non masked carnivale spells.

    Not every thread has to be taken down a peg.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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    Thing is though, BLU is very solidly a dps, its a terrible tank, it barely classes as a healer and fuctions very well as a support dps. I honestly despise this implementation, having grinded BLU casually this week, Im already out of content, and Im yet to be provided a valid reason why this version of BLU can't be in duty finder.
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    Last edited by ReiMakoto; 01-20-2019 at 04:00 AM.
    Savage Completion Rate ~5%+ of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to savage"
    Ultimate Completion Rate ~1% of active players. Community: "Ugh stop catering to the hardcore raiders"
    Frontline/ Rival Wings/ Hidden Gorge Mount Aquisition ~0.05-1% of active players. Community: "Ugh PVP is so dead in this game, they should stop investing in it"
    Blue Mage Morbol Mount Aquisition ~0.01% of active players. Community: "WoW bLuE mAgE iS sO fUn AnD aCtIvE i CaN't WaIt FoR mOrE lImItEd JoBs"

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    Maybe, just maybe, some people play FFXI and FFXIV. They can also appreciate when XIV pulls from XI. This is still Final Fantasy afterall. It’s not like a WoW player asking a Final Fantasy game to be like WoW. That’s a very different thing in my opinion.

    I’m all for XIV being more like any previous title, cause I love them all!!

    I also love BLU, and every other job!

    I’m having fun! Be jealous!
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    I dunno, I've been enjoying it but I'm still not convinced it's fleshed out enough to justify it being side content, nor to make up for the restrictive three-role system in the first place.

    Summoner, Bard, Ranger, and Thief all variously don't exist properly or at all in the game because of the role limitations. On the other hand, Blue Mage now exists in its own little side content that seems to not have a purpose outside itself; once you've learned all the spells it's basically "done" because it can't really be used for much currently that you can't just do with any other job that's at 70. So every time a new job is added it can either be screwed up to try and fit into a role it didn't have before, or it can be relegated to its own little sandbox, and neither option sounds that great to me. Although rarely they seem to get it just right like they did with Red Mage.

    I didn't mean this to be a complete downer post at first, but I just don't think this suddenly makes the game great for former XI players or players of other FF games in general. Just like relic weapons (that constantly are made pointless) and grinding mobs in Eureka didn't before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post
    Maybe, just maybe, some people play FFXI and FFXIV. They can also appreciate when XIV pulls from XI. This is still Final Fantasy afterall. It’s not like a WoW player asking a Final Fantasy game to be like WoW. That’s a very different thing in my opinion.

    I’m all for XIV being more like any previous title, cause I love them all!!

    I also love BLU, and every other job!

    I’m having fun! Be jealous!
    The thing is, Final Fantasy XI was an objectively terrible game. The EXP Party system that players developed in response to the twin mechanics of "You lose EXP when you die" and "You have to be in a party to get anything accomplished" was quite possibly the most tedious, mind-numbing, and godawful experience ever placed in a video game. None of that was fun. It was fun in the same way a second job or an emotionally-needy long-distance girlfriend might be considered as such. You had to take the same approach to playing FFXI as you would to building a model ship, or writing a novel, just without any tangible results on the other end of it.

    There is a big distinction between having fun doing an activity and putting up with doing an activity with the expectation that a reward would appear at the end of it. The Blue Mage skill grind, and Final Fantasy XI as a whole, are decidedly in the second category.

    And even IF you personally have no issue putting up with the grind, there is nothing stopping you from practicing a little empathy for people who aren't. There is also nothing wrong with wanting the job to reach a place where it would actually be fun to play for everyone, instead of just you.
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