Reported these bots nothing happens!

[HyoMinPark]

Well all I know to do is make some noise here then maybe people could back me up. I give SE that they do at least listen to there players.

Sadly, Vnolan is correct—reporting does very little; making noise does very little. There have been previous PLL Q&A threads where posters here have made posts requesting that the developers address the botting issues, and the lack of action when it comes to reports. Those questions have mostly been ignored in favor of answering “When can we get X glamour items on X job”.

There are several gathering and crafting bots on my server that have been reported by a myriad of individuals since SB dropped, and they have never been punished for it. I even reported 3 of them for botting in Anemos when it was current. They’re still there, though. Every day. Botting away. Destroying the consumables market on my server to the point other crafters have transferred to other servers. I stopped reporting because my reports seemed to fall on deaf ears.

This isn’t me defending botting. This is just me saying it gets tiring to take the time to fill out reports when nothing is ever done about those who are repeatedly reported by multiple people.

[dutt]

It’s not about being PC — these forums have a very strict name-and-shame policy. Naming the characters here will not get them reported more often or get them banned; it will only result in you getting a ban (temporary or permanent) from the official forums. Nothing more, nothing less.

kinda is... just woven into tos maybe I'm old school

[dutt]

lets get lost in the details and get nothing done! like me here I'm done.

[HyoMinPark]

kinda is... just woven into tos maybe I'm old school

Not naming and shaming on the OF is in the forum’s ToS. Again, that doesn’t make it “PC”—PC means “politically correct”. I’m giving you the definition here because you seem to be conflating “being PC” with “following the rules”. Asking you to abide by forum guidelines of “don’t name and shame other players” is not being politically correct. It’s asking you to follow the rules of the forum.

[dutt]

Not naming and shaming on the OF is in the forum’s ToS. Again, that doesn’t make it “PC”—PC means “politically correct”. I’m giving you the definition here because you seem to be conflating “being PC” with “following the rules”. Asking you to abide by forum guidelines of “don’t name and shame other players” is not being politically correct. It’s asking you to follow the rules of the forum.

I know what it means assuming people don't and failing to understand my point doesn't make you right... have fun correcting people on forums today and probably most days sounds like your thing.

[Rymm]

I know what it means assuming people don't and failing to understand my point doesn't make you right... have fun correcting people on forums today and probably most days sounds like your thing.

There's really no reason to be belligerent. Especially when most of the people here were only "correcting" you for your own sake. You seem to be laboring under the impression that we either like or at the very least are apathetic about the bots you called out. We aren't. Would you rather we said nothing and you got slapped with a ban instead?

You seem to understand that the forum guidelines include a zero-harassment policy and that 'naming and shaming' falls under that policy- i.e. it's against "the rules". What we seem to disagree on is if "the rules" are inherently "PC" (at the same time using PC in a manner that conveys negative connotations, which is another matter entirely). The fact of the matter is, this is a public forum for an online game that is played (and paid for) by an extremely large and a wildly diverse group. "The rules" have to be PC in this situation, if for no other reason than SE needs to cover their behind (note that I can't even use the word I would like to here, for the same reason) and make sure that no one, in this diverse group has legitimate grounds on which to base a complaint, let alone an actual lawsuit.

TL;DR- Anonymous people on the internet have tendency to act like children, so SE is forced to treat us like children, and make overly-strict rules to ensure that we all play nice.

[Awha]

I know what it means assuming people don't and failing to understand my point doesn't make you right... have fun correcting people on forums today and probably most days sounds like your thing.

:P Just put the image back up with the names not blacked out and play the waiting game.

[dutt]

There's really no reason to be belligerent. Especially when most of the people here were only "correcting" you for your own sake. You seem to be laboring under the impression that we either like or at the very least are apathetic about the bots you called out. We aren't. Would you rather we said nothing and you got slapped with a ban instead?

You seem to understand that the forum guidelines include a zero-harassment policy and that 'naming and shaming' falls under that policy- i.e. it's against "the rules". What we seem to disagree on is if "the rules" are inherently "PC" (at the same time using PC in a manner that conveys negative connotations, which is another matter entirely). The fact of the matter is, this is a public forum for an online game that is played (and paid for) by an extremely large and a wildly diverse group. "The rules" have to be PC in this situation, if for no other reason than SE needs to cover their behind (note that I can't even use the word I would like to here, for the same reason) and make sure that no one, in this diverse group has legitimate grounds on which to base a complaint, let alone an actual lawsuit.

TL;DR- Anonymous people on the internet have tendency to act like children, so SE is forced to treat us like children, and make overly-strict rules to ensure that we all play nice.

belligerent no, maybe due to being text you fail to understand my tone. This is the type of rhetoric that derails topics and misses the point so that is the only thing I don't really like. Thank you for adding to that for real because maybe some of you guys who do that looks like with 1000's or 100's of posts (I can assume) may realize it after a while of being told to stop taking topics off of the point just may. with heart of hearts, hopefully they do something useful have a nice day! WTB 50 posts about stopping these two bots Only 10mil gil lol jk (bc may be against TOS and no one reads that)

[dutt]

:P Just put the image back up with the names not blacked out and play the waiting game.

or they can go to duskglow, evergleam or Gyr Abanian Ore 24/7 hit them with a trade when they teleport and watch them movie around weird trying to gather and go to next node without a flinch its not that complicated!

[HyoMinPark]

belligerent no, maybe due to being text you fail to understand my tone. This is the type of rhetoric that derails topics and misses the point so that is the only thing I don't really like.

I mean, you could just stop responding to those who are correcting you. By chastising them for derailing your thread, you are continuing and contributing to the derailment.

I know what it means assuming people don't and failing to understand my point doesn't make you right... have fun correcting people on forums today and probably most days sounds like your thing.

And this seems fairly belligerent to me. At the very least, it’s snarky for literally no reason.

All because I had the audacity to tell you “don’t post names publically or you’ll get banned” and for telling you that asking you to follow the rules for the sake of your account is not being politically correct?