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    The point is that its just these two and have been reported multiple times. sorry for breaking the rules I play the game I don't usually post here. All is well now?
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    You're wasting your time reporting them. Nothing will happen. GMs aren't allowed to do anything about bots no matter how obvious and the STF might as well not exist when it comes to these types of bots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    You're wasting your time reporting them. Nothing will happen. GMs aren't allowed to do anything about bots no matter how obvious and the STF might as well not exist when it comes to these types of bots.
    Well all I know to do is make some noise here then maybe people could back me up. I give SE that they do at least listen to there players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dutt View Post
    Well all I know to do is make some noise here then maybe people could back me up. I give SE that they do at least listen to there players.
    Sadly, Vnolan is correct—reporting does very little; making noise does very little. There have been previous PLL Q&A threads where posters here have made posts requesting that the developers address the botting issues, and the lack of action when it comes to reports. Those questions have mostly been ignored in favor of answering “When can we get X glamour items on X job”.

    There are several gathering and crafting bots on my server that have been reported by a myriad of individuals since SB dropped, and they have never been punished for it. I even reported 3 of them for botting in Anemos when it was current. They’re still there, though. Every day. Botting away. Destroying the consumables market on my server to the point other crafters have transferred to other servers. I stopped reporting because my reports seemed to fall on deaf ears.

    This isn’t me defending botting. This is just me saying it gets tiring to take the time to fill out reports when nothing is ever done about those who are repeatedly reported by multiple people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dutt View Post
    Well all I know to do is make some noise here then maybe people could back me up. I give SE that they do at least listen to there players.
    Maybe if you spoke Japanese they would probably listen to you. English? Pffft. SE cares that you pay your sub every month. Nothing more and nothing less. Your best bet is to just ignore and carry on.
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    lets get lost in the details and get nothing done! like me here I'm done.
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    You claim the bots are in your FC, so I'd think you could at least get them removed if you brought it up to the leadership. Then again, I tried that with a FC that supposedly values fair play on my own server, but they stubbornly cling to the ideology that "Only the GMs or STF have the right to take any kind of action against them". Oh, those poor ignorant souls.

    To be honest, I think the majority of the player base is utterly blind when it comes to identifying bots, because they have a movement pattern that's unlike anything you'll actually see from legitimate players (Looking for the telltale "Mount up, awkward pause, then jump in place and fly away" is just one of many obvious signs).

    Personally, I've been doing everything can to address them on a level that's not going to put me at risk of getting banned because of reciprocal salt. If I see them in my hunt linkshells, for instance, I purge them ASAP.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 01-19-2019 at 06:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    You claim the bots are in your FC, so I'd think you could at least get them removed if you brought it up to the leadership. Then again, I tried that with a FC that supposedly values fair play on my own server, but they stubbornly cling to the ideology that "Only the GMs or STF have the right to take any kind of action against them". Oh, those poor ignorant souls.

    To be honest, I think the majority of the player base is utterly blind when it comes to identifying bots, because they have a movement pattern that's unlike anything you'll actually see from legitimate players (Looking for the telltale "Mount up, awkward pause, then jump in place and fly away" is just one of many obvious signs).

    Personally, I've been doing everything can to address them on a level that's not going to put me at risk of getting banned because of reciprocal salt. If I see them in my hunt linkshells, for instance, I purge them ASAP.
    My fc is crafters and gathers mostly they are not in my fc. also they can stop a teleport with a trade offer see them glitch and then head to node a few minutes later that should be proof in its self
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    Last edited by dutt; 01-19-2019 at 08:24 AM.

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    Interrupting bots with trades is also not a good idea as a lot of them are being monitored and they can/will file reports for harassment if they notice you doing it. Heck, even if they just scroll back through their chat log when they wake up and notice it they'll still have enough evidence to get a GM on your case.

    I feel like a lot of them specifically avoid turning on Do Not Disturb status just so they can do this, since they have to know they're pissing people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Interrupting bots with trades is also not a good idea as a lot of them are being monitored and they can/will file reports for harassment if they notice you doing it. Heck, even if they just scroll back through their chat log when they wake up and notice it they'll still have enough evidence to get a GM on your case.

    I feel like a lot of them specifically avoid turning on Do Not Disturb status just so they can do this, since they have to know they're pissing people off.
    I ment for a gm to do it I'd assume they have a force trade command or force join party and can cast resuce on them may have to engage combat my point is clear its not that hard
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