Thread: re: Known Issues After Patch 4.5 (Jan. 17, 18)

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

This is completely untrue, I got pushed out of a spot in North Thanalan right outside of Camp Bluefrog because every single enemy was killed as soon as it spawned by a Red Mage who was exploiting. He ran around both the left and right side of the maps instant one shotting every enemy before I could even tag them with so much as water cannon. I saw this occurring all over Mor Dhona too.

If the RDM was going that fast then he must not have been switching back to BLU to get experience. You do need to wait for the server tick to reward you the exp before you switch back, and yes you can switch back too fast. The situation you presented sounds much more lika a lv70 helping a BLU out, because the BLU just has to tag a bunch of things and then the 70 can just wipe the map clean.

Every other area had these exploiters running around one shotting as soon as the mob spawned. A single exploiter can nuke around 30-40 enemies in under a minute by just running around on a red mage or archer. It's totally broken.

Sound like some godly exploiters. I don't think I could kill 30-40 enemies a minute just regularly on RDM (not packed tightly enough anywhere really and gcd is a thing), let alone when between every kill I'd have to stop for a second to let the xp register.

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

Flying Sardine has potency of 10 and cast time of 2.5s. That's the same cast time as water cannon.

The only instant spells blue mage has have to be learned from primals.

Regardless 10 potency tag isnt going to help the blue mage deal with lv70 characters with instant aoe spells nuking groups of mobs

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Flying_Sardine

"Cast Time: Instant
Recast: 2.5s"

Originally Posted by Dualgunner

If the RDM was going that fast then he must not have been switching back to BLU to get experience. You do need to wait for the server tick to reward you the exp before you switch back, and yes you can switch back too fast. The situation you presented sounds much more lika a lv70 helping a BLU out, because the BLU just has to tag a bunch of things and then the 70 can just wipe the map clean.

People are using macros to switch back and forth incredibly fast. I thought at first they were botting but it seems to be a macro setup.

The only reason I even knew they were switching is because I would see the chat log say they leveled up blue mage when they clearly are different class. The flash of light between changes rarely even triggers on them.

Originally Posted by Dualgunner

You can change back too fast. Macro or no if you switch back too fast the experience goes to the job you switched back to.

Given that I just spent the past few days observing the exploiters behavior across zones and among multiple individuals, and clearly seeing the log from the exploiters that their blue mage job leveled up while they were a different class, you're not going to convince me what I repeatedly observed did not occur.

There may be additional exploits being used. One person was shouting the other day that some of the exploiters were going invisible though I didn't observe anyone vanishing and re-appearing myself.

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

Given that I just spent the past few days observing the exploiters behavior across zones and among multiple individuals, and clearly seeing the log from the exploiters that their blue mage job leveled up while they were a different class, you're not going to convince me what I repeatedly observed did not occur.

There may be additional exploits being used. One person was shouting the other day that some of the exploiters were going invisible.

Glad you have your unfalsifiable experiences. So do I. They're probably doing the 2-man exploit method. I've never even heard of any invisibility exploit, and now it really sounds like you're fearmongering.

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

People are using macros to switch back and forth incredibly fast. I thought at first they were botting but it seems to be a macro setup.

The only reason I even knew they were switching is because I would see the chat log say they leveled up blue mage when they clearly are different class. The flash of light between changes rarely even triggers on them.

It's not a macro, it's dragging gearsets onto a hotbar. And I don't know why people are getting upset over someone killing stuff on a 70 then switching to Blu. A) they could be farming materials and just killing two birds with one stone and B) at no point in time is there a giant name tag on every monster that says "your monster". It's not like people can take Blu to 70 and raid with it. All they can do is farm spells and do the masked carnival. Also there is a slight delay from when you can switch back and forth. Too slow and no exp, forget to switch and you've got a pissed off monster way above your level chasing you down.