Thread: re: Known Issues After Patch 4.5 (Jan. 17, 18)

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

This is completely untrue, I got pushed out of a spot in North Thanalan right outside of Camp Bluefrog because every single enemy was killed as soon as it spawned by a Red Mage who was exploiting. He ran around both the left and right side of the maps instant one shotting every enemy before I could even tag them with so much as water cannon. I saw this occurring all over Mor Dhona too.

I can go around and one shot every mob in a zone that another player is trying to kill. That doesn't mean I'm exploiting anything. I'm just being a jerk.

The exploit only comes in if I immediately job switch so a different job gains XP from the kill than the one I used to kill the mob.

Most of those people running around one shotting stuff are just jerks, not exploiters.

But I do agree in general that SE has made a poor call by saying "we're not going to punish you, keep doing it". It just encourages more players to use the exploit because it's now been stamped as "this is okay to do". They will use it with other jobs and in other situations as well. Then they'll start using other exploits because SE has already authorized players to use this one.


I do hope they reconsider. Better for them to say "we won't penalize players who have used it until now but we will penalize those found using it going forward".


In the meantime, this explains how Derplander was changing jobs in the teaser trailer.

Originally Posted by Lovescake

https://imgur.com/O5Ka4gE

> Cast time: Instant
Recast time

The wikia is wrong then.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Flying_Sardine

Regardless a 10 potency single target cast isn't going to be effective at addressing what I am talking about, and I think you realize that

Originally Posted by Dualgunner

You can change back too fast. Macro or no if you switch back too fast the experience goes to the job you switched back to.

Given that I just spent the past few days observing the exploiters behavior across zones and among multiple individuals, and clearly seeing the log from the exploiters that their blue mage job leveled up while they were a different class, you're not going to convince me what I repeatedly observed did not occur.

There may be additional exploits being used. One person was shouting the other day that some of the exploiters were going invisible though I didn't observe anyone vanishing and re-appearing myself.

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

The wikia is wrong then.

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Flying_Sardine

Regardless a 10 potency single target cast isn't going to be effective at addressing what I am talking about, and I think you realize that

Incorrect.

If you tag the monster, you still get the exp, regardless of who killed that mob, you instant cast on it and someone hits it? who cares, free exp to you, thats how the other levelling method works outside of this solo work.

Also, realistically. Why aren't you just LOOKING at your spells, rather than referencing the wikia.

another note to add also, people aren't using macros to switch between jobs. Macros include delay, and terrible ones at that, otherwise youd actively use macros for a wider range of spells for raiding and such, people are doing something way simpler.. they're putting their saved job gear set, on their hotbar, and pressing a key. that's literally it.

In honesty though, i really really don't grasp why this is such a big issue, it's went under the bridge for so long until people get upset about not being able to kill a mob, i get it, it sucks to some retrospect, but realistically? the problem will void itself, most open world areas now are barren of this anyway,


and to the person for "1 million players", that's not how it works, you have a data centre, and a server, and i can guarantee you that there isn't a million active players of this game right now, and if so, its a tight stretch across all regions

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

Given that I just spent the past few days observing the exploiters behavior across zones and among multiple individuals, and clearly seeing the log from the exploiters that their blue mage job leveled up while they were a different class, you're not going to convince me what I repeatedly observed did not occur.

There may be additional exploits being used. One person was shouting the other day that some of the exploiters were going invisible.

Glad you have your unfalsifiable experiences. So do I. They're probably doing the 2-man exploit method. I've never even heard of any invisibility exploit, and now it really sounds like you're fearmongering.

Originally Posted by Lovescake

Incorrect.


Also, realistically. Why aren't you just LOOKING at your spells, rather than referencing the wikia.

Because I'm not logged in.

From what i understand the devs have more important things to sort out you know an expansion that less than 7 months away they know it is an exploit while doing nothing now they are going to make sure it can't happen in future from 5.0 onwards so lv 50 to 60 blu has to be done differently stop fearmongering it is unneeded and just paints you as petty it took you longer than someone else to reach lv50.
The devs stance is simple its an exploit they don't wanna work on right now but have plans in 5.0 to counter it going forward and really it's an oh no someone got to lv50 with just water cannon have fun whacking lv8 mobs with your cane for abilities the very core of blu is tied to XD