Thread: re: Known Issues After Patch 4.5 (Jan. 17, 18)

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

This is completely untrue, I got pushed out of a spot in North Thanalan right outside of Camp Bluefrog because every single enemy was killed as soon as it spawned by a Red Mage who was exploiting. He ran around both the left and right side of the maps instant one shotting every enemy before I could even tag them with so much as water cannon.

All I'm saying is, using the 'legal' way by teaming up with a friend you kill twice as many mobs (i.e. cover twice the area) before the mobs start to respawn.

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

This is completely untrue, I got pushed out of a spot in North Thanalan right outside of Camp Bluefrog because every single enemy was killed as soon as it spawned by a Red Mage who was exploiting. He ran around both the left and right side of the maps instant one shotting every enemy before I could even tag them with so much as water cannon. I saw this occurring all over Mor Dhona too.

If the RDM was going that fast then he must not have been switching back to BLU to get experience. You do need to wait for the server tick to reward you the exp before you switch back, and yes you can switch back too fast. The situation you presented sounds much more lika a lv70 helping a BLU out, because the BLU just has to tag a bunch of things and then the 70 can just wipe the map clean.

Every other area had these exploiters running around one shotting as soon as the mob spawned. A single exploiter can nuke around 30-40 enemies in under a minute by just running around on a red mage or archer. It's totally broken.

Sound like some godly exploiters. I don't think I could kill 30-40 enemies a minute just regularly on RDM (not packed tightly enough anywhere really and gcd is a thing), let alone when between every kill I'd have to stop for a second to let the xp register.

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

Flying Sardine has potency of 10 and cast time of 2.5s. That's the same cast time as water cannon.

The only instant spells blue mage has have to be learned from primals.

Regardless 10 potency tag isnt going to help the blue mage deal with lv70 characters with instant aoe spells nuking groups of mobs

https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Flying_Sardine

"Cast Time: Instant
Recast: 2.5s"

Originally Posted by therpgfanatic

This is completely untrue, I got pushed out of a spot in North Thanalan right outside of Camp Bluefrog because every single enemy was killed as soon as it spawned by a Red Mage who was exploiting. He ran around both the left and right side of the maps instant one shotting every enemy before I could even tag them with so much as water cannon. I saw this occurring all over Mor Dhona too.

I can go around and one shot every mob in a zone that another player is trying to kill. That doesn't mean I'm exploiting anything. I'm just being a jerk.

The exploit only comes in if I immediately job switch so a different job gains XP from the kill than the one I used to kill the mob.

Most of those people running around one shotting stuff are just jerks, not exploiters.

But I do agree in general that SE has made a poor call by saying "we're not going to punish you, keep doing it". It just encourages more players to use the exploit because it's now been stamped as "this is okay to do". They will use it with other jobs and in other situations as well. Then they'll start using other exploits because SE has already authorized players to use this one.


I do hope they reconsider. Better for them to say "we won't penalize players who have used it until now but we will penalize those found using it going forward".


In the meantime, this explains how Derplander was changing jobs in the teaser trailer.

Holy shit, it boggles the mind that anyone is actually upset about this.

The core of the BLU job is getting spells, not exping to 50. Even if you cheese your way to 50, you still have to put in the work to get spells. Stop making such a fuss about this.

You're absolutely right but so many of the players are perfectly fine with what is essentially cheating.

This is most evident by many players defending doing the exact same thing to gain light in pagos.

Originally Posted by Deceptus

You're absolutely right but so many of the players are perfectly fine with what is essentially cheating.

This is most evident by many players defending switching jobs to gain light in pagos.

Getting to lvl 50 with blue mage doesnt give you anything.They still ahve to do the dungeons learn all the spells.Most still arent even solable at lvl 50.There is no benefit people get from doing the xp switch except for spending less time grinding monsters.

The light switch gives you something towards relic weapon.Something you are suppsoed to grind to obtain.
They are 2 completly different things.

If it was having a huge negative efect on the game i'd be against it too but its not and people are just raging now on forums because devs arent gonna ban all those players that other salty blues were trying to get punished.

Wait...you are using their statement about something they say would normally be considered an exploit, that being where people are job switching from 70s to BLU to receive the EXP due to server ticks to argue against level 70s killing mobs for BLUs leveling? I mean their statement doesnt even involve what your arguing against....