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  1. #11
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinibou View Post
    You must learn "1000 needles" first because you will never do enough damage to enemies and boss with just the water skill.
    And learn enough skills (10) to get White Wind from the NPC near Martyn. It will help you heal if needed.
    It's also heavily suggested to learn Acorn Bomb to sleep trash and pick them one by one.
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  2. #12
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    Bsrking5's Avatar
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    Alpha Lupi
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    It's also heavily suggested to learn Acorn Bomb to sleep trash and pick them one by one.
    Picking up flying sardine, it helps with mob tagging. Really useful for open world skills since only the initiating party even has a chance on skills.
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  3. #13
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    It was my understanding that each blu I’m a party has their own rng chance of earning a spell, but if one earns it everyone earns it. So say the spell has a 10% drop rate and you have a 4 blu party, each person has an individual 10% chance of getting the drop, but since you’re in a party you then get 4 10% “rolls”. Each kill gets you 4 chances (in a 4 blu party) which does increase your odds of getting the drop over being alone.
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  4. #14
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    It was my understanding that each blu I’m a party has their own rng chance of earning a spell, but if one earns it everyone earns it. So say the spell has a 10% drop rate and you have a 4 blu party, each person has an individual 10% chance of getting the drop, but since you’re in a party you then get 4 10% “rolls”. Each kill gets you 4 chances (in a 4 blu party) which does increase your odds of getting the drop over being alone.
    I think it's the mob that rolls. If they roll to give it out, then all BLU's present get it, if they roll to keep it then no BLU's get it. More BLU's don't effect the odds in that case.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 01-19-2019 at 01:03 AM.

  5. #15
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    BiggsBeoulve's Avatar
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    Biggs Beoulve
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmymagic View Post
    I'm getting frustrated. I'm at level 25 and I can't do any dungeons at all. I know the job is limited but everyone else seems to be getting the dungeon spells. Needs some help Please.

    Not sure if I'm misinterpreting this, but I feel like OP was asking logistically HOW to get into dungeons to be able to attain the spells. You have to use the undersized party / "unsync'd" option in your duty finder settings to be able to queue for a dungeon as BLU.
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  6. #16
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    Tempest222's Avatar
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I think it's the mob that rolls. If they roll to give it out all BLU's present get it, if they roll to keep it then no BLU's get it. More BLU's don't effect the odds in that case.
    It was still my understanding that a roll happens for each blu in the party, whether you want to look at it as the mob or the player doing the roll is inconsequential. I could just be crazy, but I really thought I remembered them specifically talking about how it’s ideal to farm with multiple blue mages in a party because of this.
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  7. #17
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    Yasminou's Avatar
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    Character
    Yas Ticot
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempest222 View Post
    It was still my understanding that a roll happens for each blu in the party, whether you want to look at it as the mob or the player doing the roll is inconsequential.
    It is, it changes the probability of learning the skill. If the skill has a 10% chance of being learnt and
    - only one roll is done for the mob, then the probability of learning is 10%;
    - one roll is done for each BLU without the skill, then the probability of learning is 1-0.9^k, where k is the number of blue mages without the skill. For k=4, it would be 34.39% and for k=8, it would be 56.95%!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opodaopo View Post
    Plus qu'une terreur, une aide précieuse
    My question, suggested by my wife, at Paris 2019 Fan Festival: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/374470999?t=03h40m29s.

  8. #18
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    At lower leves the best suggestion is to learn self destruct,toad oil and bristle.thye can all be learned at this level.
    Run with some other blues.Have one pulla bunch of trash healing himself with whitewind and have them stay in mighty gaurd stance.
    Now cast toad oil on yourself, then cast bristle.then run into the pack of mobs and self destruct.Then res at start and run back to team.
    The 1000 needles option is probably better but this way is much more fun XD
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  9. #19
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    Jimmymagic's Avatar
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    Hector Dragonslayer
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    thank you biggs that was what I was after. Thank you
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  10. #20
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    Velikayl Minx
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    Picking up flying sardine, it helps with mob tagging. Really useful for open world skills since only the initiating party even has a chance on skills.
    You can and do learn skills off mobs other ppl have claimed (purple).
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