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    Nyr Ardyne
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    The issue with HW was that you had to get to level 50 and play through a bunch of patches of boring msq, often considered the low point of the entire game, to get to Ishgard and unlock them as level 30 jobs. I'm not saying they WILL do this, but I don't think it would have the same problem. The main issue with the HW jobs was having to get to 50+, get to Ishgard, and then start over at 30, where as if the new jobs started at 60, starting in Ishgard would be fine just as RDM and SAM starting at 50 in ul'dah works.

    I really doubt it's going to be an established npc though. I'm guessing they'll go for new characters. They could be related to a castrum in Eorzea or just a group of defectors etc that we meet, there's any number of ways they could take the job story. I'm curious what they'll do with the stone, maybe it will be a new stone just like MCH?
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    If it was pre going through omega Nero I'd be right there with you because he did come off as a highly untrustworthy type but a post omega Nero on the other hand he's moved away a little from this guy is totally shady. That and come on he can't be as bad as Martin the blue trainer who literally made us do his work. Now, Nero might still try to pull off an it was all me thing but he also has his competitive side.

    We'll see how/where they'll be putting this job's start at this weekend but I still think they'll be trying to have this and any other job(s) not blocked by something big like an expansion. Unless they really do want to sell those story skip potions :/
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    If it was pre going through omega Nero I'd be right there with you because he did come off as a highly untrustworthy type but a post omega Nero on the other hand he's moved away a little from this guy is totally shady. That and come on he can't be as bad as Martin the blue trainer who literally made us do his work. Now, Nero might still try to pull off an it was all me thing but he also has his competitive side.
    Well, to be fair, I disliked pretty much everyone in the BLU story... Martyn was made out to be a good guy eventually, but still didn't sway me from not liking him and his shady practices.

    Omega still hasn't changed my mind about Nero. The fact that we ended up having Cid watch his every move and make sure that Omega got shut down doesn't exactly boost my confidence in the guy who keeps trying to access stupidly powerful Allagan weapons.

    Like, that's why I'd trust a random dude who fled from the base I attacked far more, since that dude's only motive is survival. Nero wants power/notoriety and isn't afraid to try and access stuff LIKE Omega in order to do it. Like, how freaking sketch is it that he comes along and is all like "Oh, I just happen to know exactly how to start up and control Omega" like it's a common thing to just pick up knowledge of how to command a ridiculously powerful weapon...

    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    We'll see how/where they'll be putting this job's start at this weekend but I still think they'll be trying to have this and any other job(s) not blocked by something big like an expansion. Unless they really do want to sell those story skip potions :/
    Yeah.

    As I say, I can see both sides to things.

    Putting all jobs within ARR content so people can access them easily (Just having to figure out how to write them into the storyline for that period of time)

    As well as transitioning to putting them into expansion content so as to alleviate the leveling concerns for the job itself as well as giving more freedom to write them into a period that makes sense off the bat (I.e. Something like post 4.5 Populares or one of Shadowhunter's cronies or past acquaintances)
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Well he did sneak into the orignal pvp map and found omega that way and concerning how well the Allagans recorded things he could have found something. I mean Garleans did find Ultima Weapon and learn how to use it. Those notes had to be found somehow let alone learning how to bring down Dalamud. I mean we are talking about someone who's as smart as Cid and comes from an Empire that brought back cloning.

    I still don't like Martin but at least he doesn't want to industrialize the new world. That and the Carnival owner will probably keep him in line.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    I quite like Martyn.
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I quite like Martyn.
    Me too. I hope he returns in some capacity. But I dobt he would be a gunblade teacher. If it is not somebody we aready know I would bet it would be the XIV version of either Squall or Seifer.
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    Give me the brooding emo one and not the I think I'm better than you and I also dislike you because I can't believe you freaking forgot about our childhood due to a slightly unknown effect from the use of summons one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Give me the brooding emo one and not the I think I'm better than you and I also dislike you because I can't believe you freaking forgot about our childhood due to a slightly unknown effect from the use of summons one.
    Well I get you. But brooding emo's leadership and teaching skills pretty much extend to: ......whatever.....

    Quite frankly neither of them would be really good as teachers. But hey. They are the only gunblade wielders available.
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    Well I get you. But brooding emo's leadership and teaching skills pretty much extend to: ......whatever.....
    To be fair, he wouldn't be the first teacher in the game to take that particular stance.

    For example, Severian, the Alchemist tutor is pretty much that for the majority of the ARR questline (Before you prove yourself to be useful)

    More recently, Martyn's view on actually training you throughout the Blue Mage questline is pretty much just that too. With it only really changing towards the end when the antagonist starts to be a major jerk.

    At least "...Whatever..." might contribute slightly more than Gigi's "You suck and everything you do makes me want to vomit" style of teaching xD
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