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  1. #1
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    ChaseNetwork's Avatar
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    Rein Tenebres
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    Red Mage Lv 80

    Suicide Mage - Please Consider

    've found 3 Suicide Spells, and BLU has very low personal DPS potential against Primals. (Or anything that's basically immune to everything status based in BLU's kit).
    So, here's my idea. There's a boss at the end of Amdapor Keep (Hard) that can self-revive.

    Let's get that spell.
    Make it an instant OGCD with say, 60-180 seconds cooldown. (really flexible here)
    Effect: Applies "Self-res" buff to caster (Or maybe target?). Duration: 3 seconds.
    If a person with that buff dies, they instantly revive without Weakness debuff.

    I want to make practical use of these Suicide Spells, and I also want to help boost BLU's crap Primal DPS to a level where it's actually relavent to be it's supposed "Solo" class. I thought BLU could really use a raise or self-raise spell very early on leveling once I had Self-destruct and Final Sting. This became further enhanced once I was 50 with 130 gear, with Off-guard -> Glower spam being about all you can do to a primal (before getting pieces of Primal spells to actually use, but that's still not great DPS yet).

    Having a res/self-res in this way, I believe is just gimmicky enough to justify having it on BLU. It's a shame that even though Amdapor Keep (Hard) is a 50 dungeon that Yoshi didn't allow us this opportunity. This likely means we wont get it. But I want this!

    Edit: Sorry! Wrong dungeon with Amdapor in the name! The Lost City of Amdapor (Hard) is the dungeon of interest here.
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    Last edited by ChaseNetwork; 01-17-2019 at 02:01 PM.
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    kikix12's Avatar
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    Seraphitia Faro
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    I hope for Angel's Whisper in future expansion, probably from the totems, actually.

    It's a healing spell that places re-raise status on the target. It would be perfect for a Blue Mage suicide spells. Especially if it would be spammable (with an MP cost to match).
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    When they raise level cap in a year or so if they want to have every BLU spell ever they will give us Auto Life. Which will auto resurrect us on death. And with how silly some of the skills are like Toad Oil and Missile I think much later Selfdestruct is going to get better and maybe Final Sting will see some use.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    I've always disliked kamikaze type abilities in FF games. Reason being is because they are far more effective on us than on bosses. We don't have the 6-8 figure HP pools to survive them like they do.
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    That would be Auto-Life that you're describing. But yeah, I'll probably feel inclined to use Self-Destruct for something other than a suicidal Return spell when that's something I can cast.
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    I was trying to picture a boss in AK that used a raise and completely blanking. But yeah, the kuribu in lost city hard(level 60) has something like that. Reraise/life 3/auto life(depending on game) would certainly make some of these abilities more appealing.
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    Deacon Moore
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    *face tanks primal solo*
    *primal kicking BLU junk in*
    *Blu laughs, brings the big gun suicide spell*
    *primal takes a heavy hit as BLU dies*
    *Primal laughs as BLU self res kicks in and fight gets reset*
    BLU tears best tears?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    *face tanks primal solo*
    *primal kicking BLU junk in*
    *Blu laughs, brings the big gun suicide spell*
    *primal takes a heavy hit as BLU dies*
    *Primal laughs as BLU self res kicks in and fight gets reset*
    BLU tears best tears?
    Yeah, that's been something on my mind. I've had another thought for the spell to "nullify incapacitation" for a few seconds instead.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Those moves would be busted if they could used without penalty.

    Final Sting's potency is 2250 (Because you should never use it without Bristle) + 50% from Off-Guard + 50% from Moon Flute + 30% from Peculiar light, and can go even higher with buffs from other classes.

    I'm dealing almost as much damage as a LB 2 with just my personal buffs involved if it gets a DH crit.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 01-17-2019 at 04:42 PM.

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    Vice Shark
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Those moves would be busted if they could used without penalty.

    Final Sting's potency is 2250 (Because you should never use it without Bristle) + 50% from Off-Guard + 50% from Moon Flute + 30% from Peculiar light, and can go even higher with buffs from other classes.

    I'm dealing almost as much damage as a LB 2 with just my personal buffs involved if it gets a DH crit.
    That's the point. Blu's not here to be balanced, hence why it's locked out of DF. It would not surprise me if in 5.0, Angel Whisper came as part of the next wave of spells and if it doesn't, the request for it might be large enough to sway SE into putting it in the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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