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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post

    What exactly is that guy on the bottom, second from the left, doing?

    I am personally fine with glamour options right now. I mean, I'd like to see more creativity with the male options, but making one bunny suit seemed to have mentally scarred the developers for life, so whatever. I think that's why we haven't seen any "veteran" rewards added that are based on female characters. People would reasonably expect them to be unisex
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    Fishsteaks were made

  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Sorry to say this dude, but none of those are traditionally feminine. Like not at all lol, especially during those eras. You won't hear any complaints from me if sets like these were released and gender locked for males. Are you going to post more kilts, healed boots, and other gender neutral attire? And actually, I wouldn't even say these outfits are gender neutral. They are definitely designed for males to wear.
    I'm pretty sure that was exactly the point. At least what I took to be the point.

    People say that there are too many feminine costumes in the game, and not enough masculine costumes, but I'm fairly sure it's because they look at things like this and see skirts and dresses.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    What exactly is that guy on the bottom, second from the left, doing?
    An excellent question which I also asked when looking through the images, but have no answer for.

    I am not sure if I want to know.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The thing is people who don't want to conform to someone else's standards would feel like it is an attack because the preferences of another person is being forced on them.
    That's a sentiment those on the receiving end need to deal with, pardon my bluntness. I do not feel attacked by those who want gender locked outfits because I am not being personally attacked. That's the line I chose to draw. If people want to draw theirs at opposing aesthetic views rather than their character themselves then...best to terminate the game entirely. Then no one will feel attacked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  5. #85
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    I just wish the stopped gender locking altogether...
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Sorry to say this dude, but none of those are traditionally feminine.
    What makes something traditionally feminine or traditionally masculine?
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Explain to me how keeping things gender locked hurts ANYONE. Please! I really want to hear this.
    It restricts choice in a way that doesn't benefit the game. There's no reason why a male character shouldn't be allowed to wear a skirt, nor a female character to wear trousers or a suit with a tie.

    Oh wait, female characters DO get to wear trousers and suits with a tie. So why can't males wear skirts.

    Flip your question and ask how removing gender lock hurts anyone. It doesn't. It doesn't even hurt you regardless of your "traditional values".
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    That's a sentiment those on the receiving end need to deal with, pardon my bluntness. I do not feel attacked by those who want gender locked outfits because I am not being personally attacked. That's the line I chose to draw. If people want to draw theirs at opposing aesthetic views rather than their character themselves then...best to terminate the game entirely. Then no one will feel attacked.
    But they don't need to deal with it. That's the point. Gender locking is a near meaningless restriction that has literally zero impact on the game's mechanics. Removing it would make people more happy than unhappy. Everyone would love more choice in glams. Anyway not all gender locked gear is extremely feminine or masculine. Some are pretty neutral.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It restricts choice in a way that doesn't benefit the game. There's no reason why a male character shouldn't be allowed to wear a skirt, nor a female character to wear trousers or a suit with a tie.

    Oh wait, female characters DO get to wear trousers and suits with a tie. So why can't males wear skirts.
    Funny thing is there are some skirts male characters can wear. Even Raubahn wears a skirt and no one complains about it.
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  9. #89
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    Cenric Asher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brynne View Post
    What makes something traditionally feminine or traditionally masculine?
    I think it ties to how it fits and accentuates the body! The history of fashion is interesting and honestly throughout there have been a lot of different trends that developed for different reasons. Ex. Historically when European women wore massive hoop skirts with corsets that made their waists look tiny, sort of like a bell, the point was to make the hips look dramatically wider iirc because wide hips signified fertility and being a top quality feminine lady. I remember there was a time in history when it was manly for dudes to show they had muscular calves I think with hose and heels because it showed high status (don’t need to plow fields) and strength/masculinity. Can’t swear to the second but think I heard that. In general there is a lot of interaction between environment, resources, inconvenience, health, rarity, biology, and other stuff. It isn’t arbitrary, is an art form, and can be really cool! Worth researching all the different reasons behind trend development and then extrapolating for fiction. Also cool thing about fashion, as an art form works differently across different body types to emphasize different features and create various silhouettes and impressions. The traditional part of traditionally masculine or feminine just means that historically those trends were favored to emphasize certain aspects of male and female bodies and make statements about the individual men and women who utilized them I figure. Can defy the traditional norms and all, just wouldn’t be traditional specifically for masculinity or femininity because it steps away from the social conventions and messages being conveyed through fashion at the time.
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    Last edited by Jaywalker; 01-18-2019 at 11:57 AM.

  10. #90
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    Also quick note to people asking why gender locking on outfits, I think honestly it is in part because the devs would have to spend more time, money, and effort adapting the clothes for male and female models, which they do for most glamours. Probably it’s as simple as they spent their resources doing other stuff.
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