SE Needs A New Policy On Griefing

[Vahlnir]

There is no rule in the game saying a lvl 70 cannot kill a low lvl mob in the open world, lmao, oh man now I've heard it all, I hope some of you never become law makers.

There isn't, no. Whenever you're impacting the gameplay of at least 3 dozen other people though it can get a bit messy. That's where griefing and trolling come in.

[Rokke]

If people want to farm materials then there's a ton of other places to do so. Probably faster to buy them from the MB though, seeing as ARR mats are cheap as heck. If someone is THAT low on gil that they can't buy said mats then they are doing something very wrong.

Not all of them are cheap and I make decent money off of people too lazy to farm for themselves, especially since we're only a week into the new patch and prices are still somewhat inflated. If people want to level then theres a ton of other places to do so.

[Vahlnir]

Not all of them are cheap and I make decent money off of people too lazy to farm for themselves, especially since we're only a week into the new patch and prices are still somewhat inflated. If people want to level then theres a ton of other places to do so.

Depends on what one would consider expensive I guess. Regardless, leveling is one thing, people can do that anywhere. Trying to learn spells is another.

Some examples from a couple bottlenecks on patch day:

1. People can't learn Self Destruct from a Colibri.

2. People can't learn Final Sting from a wolf.

[Rokke]

Leveling is one thing, people can do that anywhere. Trying to learn spells is another. As an example, people can't learn Self Destruct from a Colibri.

You can't learn it from a Colibri but you do not need to mob the open world bombs and hope for the best. The bombs in Halatali self destruct. You don't have to share those with anyone. Spells can be earned in open world, in leves, and in dungeons. If X is too crowded, move to one of the other spells or use a different method.

[Vahlnir]

You can't learn it from a Colibri but you do not need to mob the open world bombs and hope for the best.

Spells can be earned in open world, in leves, and in dungeons. If X is too crowded, move to one of the other spells or use a different method.

You're right, but it goes both ways here. One could also leave the crowd to their own business and farm mats elsewhere, just as people in the crowd are fully capable of leaving and learning their spells somewhere else. Alot of the time though one or both parties refuse to budge. That is where policies regarding griefing and trolling may apply if the number of people doing one activity are weighed against 1 or 2 people knowingly impeding the progress of many others but refusing to leave.

[Rokke]

You're right, but it goes both ways here. One could also leave the crowd to their own business and farm mats elsewhere, just as people in the crowd are fully capable of leaving and learning their spells somewhere else. Alot of the time though one or both parties refuse to budge. That is where policies regarding griefing and trolling may apply if the number of people doing one activity are weighed against 1 or 2 people knowingly impeding the progress of many others but refusing to leave.

When everyone is trolling then noone is. Unless a player is antagonizing people while farming, resetting mobs, or purposely getting lower leveled BLUs killed, they're just playing the game. I have my BLU artifact set already and I didn't need to cry for policy reform to get it.

[Kuroka]

There are unwritten rules too and such things belong to that. You just dont F#### others...

[Rokke]

There are unwritten rules too and such things belong to that. You just dont F#### others...

Community made rules =/= ToS. Its why no one needs to wait for slowpokes when it comes to hunting or no one needs to form a line for events.


I don’t think someone should go out of their way to ruin other people’s enjoyment of the new minigame, however, there are some of us who actually ventured out into the openworld before Tuesday and we shouldn’t have to sit around doing nothing until people get bored of BLU. We don’t need a new policy. If you feel someone is griefing, report them. If GMs feel that it was, the player will be punished. If GMs feel that it wasn’t, the player won’t be punished.

We have these threads pop up when a duty has an openworld element, when a fate has an openworld element, when an event has an openworld element, etc - Everyone cries griefing on day one because they aren’t instantaneously given the thing they want and IT MUST BE SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT!!!1!…and then as people filter through they go back to not caring because they can all go back to ignoring each other (and the openworld) after that first tidal wave of players.

[AxlStream]

So would it be poor tim8ng to farm grenade/bomb ash for leveling my crafters?

[Thamorian]

So would it be poor tim8ng to farm grenade/bomb ash for leveling my crafters?

Kobold beast tribe sells bomb ash for 82 gil per. If you really need someone, ask someone with reputation with Kobolds to buy you some. 8200 for a stack of 100 I don't think anyone in their right mind would make a fuss over buying.