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    Arctura Fengari
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    My Idea For Fixing Blue Mage

    - Make Blue Mage queable for any of the three roles.
    - Categorize each ability by its role typings.
    - Require enough abilities in a certain role to go into instanced content. I.e. basic healing abilities, aggro abilities, and dps abilities. The number required would go up by the content level.
    - Further categorize the abilities by labeling each one for its power. Extremely OP skills that are abusable in duty finder would be banned, or limited in the number that they can be used.
    - When you choose a role, your icon color changes to reflect that role.
    - By the time you reach level 60-80 you would have enough varied abilities for each role. It would still be a highly customizable job.
    - Obviously in undersized instances, and non instanced content, you could do whatever you wanted with what is available to you.

    Thoughts?
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    Last edited by DamianFatale; 01-13-2019 at 12:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
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    That this is the most original take on the topic I've ever heard. I am in awe of these new and thought provoking suggestions.
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    "Fix"

    Also trying to balance BLU across 3 roles would be a royal nightmare.
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    Dunno why people keep trying to 'fix' something that isn't even out yet. Kind of getting really old.

    Edit: This reminds me of the time someone from Balmung tried making a red mage rotation before it was even introduced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    Dunno why people keep trying to 'fix' something that isn't even out yet. Kind of getting really old.
    This. I'm tired of seeing how people want to "fix" BLU, which hasn't even been released yet. It's a Limited Job, like it or not. If it ever becomes available for DF, it won't be soon. Just play the actual class before trying to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosentretter View Post
    This. I'm tired of seeing how people want to "fix" BLU, which hasn't even been released yet. It's a Limited Job, like it or not. If it ever becomes available for DF, it won't be soon. Just play the actual class before trying to fix it.
    Then don't comment here. There are many who disagree with the implemation of Blue Mage as a limited job. Blue Mage has been one of the highest requested jobs since even the legacy days. We just want a way to use it in regular content. In an MMO that should be the standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    Then don't comment here. There are many who disagree with the implemation of Blue Mage as a limited job. Blue Mage has been one of the highest requested jobs since even the legacy days. We just want a way to use it in regular content. In an MMO that should be the standard.
    So it should be 'standard' to strip down a class to follow the exact same formula over and over, not willing to try anything new because people are TERRIFIED of anything that's new. Don't complain about something you haven't even been given yet, or they might just call off any plans they have in the future due to people having a tantrum over it. It's a discussion forum. This is a discussion thread. You don't have the right to tell people who can and can not post here.
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    The class isn't even out yet. Can't "fix" what isn't even in the game. How about before making stuff like this, you actually give the class a try and then we go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
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    Oh look, yet another one of these BLU threads.

    *tosses it on the heap*

    Implementation is at only a couple more days away, I was honestly expecting people to be able to hold in their salt til then.
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    I wouldn't mind BLU becoming a full Job at some point, but I feel it's completely unfair to call it "fixing". You "fix" something that is not working as intended. But BLU was designed from the start to be a minigame, or side-content akin to Triple Triad, house-decorating or fishing.

    Fishing is actually the best existing BLU parallel I can think of. I personally consider FSH to be a limited gathering job. It kinda lives in a world of its own. Aside from a handful of exceptions, fish are irrelevant to crafting, fishing is not profitable, desynthing fish isn't even part of Fisher itself, and Big Fishing is a self-serving collect-a-thon that rewards not much aside from personal satisfaction.

    And you know what? I like it this way. I don't like being forced to fish to progress a quest or craft something (and I actually really appreciate that Stormblood FSH job quests were significantly easier than AAR and HW so I could experience the story without sinking hours of my life sitting in one spot and rolling dice), but I have enjoyed adding new fishies to my log to pass the time in between roulettes. It's a nice way to slow down and unwind. But I would absolutely despise it if fishing became relevant to high-end crafting or anything else, and I would hate if amazing rewards were gated behind the 20 layers of RNG that comprise Big Fishing.

    As far as I'm concerned, FSH is in a great spot and it serves the purpose of stress relief and solo challenge perfectly. It's not my favourite type of content, but I can see the appeal to its target demographic. I can also think of several issues with FSH that could genuinely use a fix (tacklebox, for one), but nothing more drastic than that. If it was, for example, redesigned to function just like botany and mining, that wouldn't be "fixing", it would be fundamentally altering into something unrecognisable and most likely unpalatable to the people fishing was made for in the first place.

    I expect BLU to be the same way - the combat equivalent of fishing.

    As I said, I wouldn't be opposed to allowing BLU to function like a full job for the purpose of participating in relevant content, BUT I absolutely, fundamentally disagree that it would constitute "fixing" anything. It would be an expansion or perhaps evolution building on the established framework, but not fixing. It's not fishing because it's broken, it's fishing because it was specifically intended to be fishing.
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 01-14-2019 at 04:31 AM.

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