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    It depends on the kind of DPS you are referring to, sustained or burst, and whether they are alone or not.

    For burst DPS, WHM wins hands down, with AST in second and SCH last. This is not only a combination of their main DPS spell, but the rest of their oGCD kit. SCH is a Dot job, so that's where most of their damage comes from.

    For sustained DPS, SCH reigns supreme, as they always have. Since they use DoTs as their primary means of damage they are able to attack and heal simultaneously. AST and WHM are almost tied for second and third, with who being where is more player dependent. But WHM is usually last since their spells cost more than an ASTs. But it should be noted that a portion of AST sustained DPS is dependent on their card draws.

    Now as for a more definitive answer as to who has the best DPS, the best answer would probably be SCH. The main reason being, most fights are designed for sustained DPS over burst. There may be burst phases, but no fight is just bursting the enemy down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    For sustained DPS, SCH reigns supreme, as they always have.
    We aren't talking about raids or end game content, this persons specifically asked who has the best DPS in solo content. The correct answer is WHM. If you go on a Target Dummy, and attack it for 10 minutes straight, WHM wins hands down every single time. This whole thing about Burst, Sustained, ETC. means absolutely nothing when talking about solo content.

    WHM has the highest potencies on all of their spells, Stone IV > Broil II... ETC... The only reason SCH is beating them is because of off global cooldown heals, not because they have superior HPS or DPS... In solo content, there is no co-healer you can force to use GCD heals. Which gets me back to my main point, they are talking about SOLO content.

    WHM is the best for solo content by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    For sustained DPS, SCH reigns supreme, as they always have.
    Furthermore, I'll agree SCH has "reigned supreme", more than any other healer throughout the entire games patches after the first expansion. But if you seriously think they have reigned supreme throughout every single patch and during 2.0 entirely, you are completely ignorant. I remember when lvl 50 was the max in binding coil of bahamut turn 2, my FC strongly encouraged me to level a WHM to 50 so we could entirely skip mechanics. Double WHM, was completely broken back then for T2, we could skip doing mechanics and just DPS it.

    I really hope what you stated was a hyperbole of a situation that needs to be fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    We aren't talking about raids or end game content, this persons specifically asked who has the best DPS in solo content. The correct answer is WHM. If you go on a Target Dummy, and attack it for 10 minutes straight, WHM wins hands down every single time. This whole thing about Burst, Sustained, ETC. means absolutely nothing when talking about solo content.

    WHM has the highest potencies on all of their spells, Stone IV > Broil II... ETC... The only reason SCH is beating them is because of off global cooldown heals, not because they have superior HPS or DPS... In solo content, there is no co-healer you can force to use GCD heals. Which gets me back to my main point, they are talking about SOLO content.

    WHM is the best for solo content by far.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    Furthermore, I'll agree SCH has "reigned supreme", more than any other healer throughout the entire games patches after the first expansion. But if you seriously think they have reigned supreme throughout every single patch and during 2.0 entirely, you are completely ignorant. I remember when lvl 50 was the max in binding coil of bahamut turn 2, my FC strongly encouraged me to level a WHM to 50 so we could entirely skip mechanics. Double WHM, was completely broken back then for T2, we could skip doing mechanics and just DPS it.

    I really hope what you stated was a hyperbole of a situation that needs to be fixed.
    3 things:

    1: Wow, just wow. Did anything in my answer warrant an attack on my personal intelligence. I wont degrade myself with a rebuttal here, but maybe you should think a bit more carefully before you reply to someone else's post.

    2: My answer was SCH, because I said most "fights" were designed for sustained DPS, not most content. Last I checked, solo content still has various fights that need to be overcome.

    You aren't inaccurate about what you said about the striking dummy either. But, as I'm sure you are aware, hitting a dummy is completely different than hitting a moving target that cannot attack back, with no mechanics to avoid. Plus the Coil reference you made is an example of a burst mechanic, which I believe I said WHM was better at, so...

    3: There is no right answer to the OPs question. It is an open ended question, whose answer will be dependent on the responders personal experience. I gave my reason as to why I felt SCH had the best DPS, but that doesn't mean I am right. Just as you giving your reason doesn't make yours right either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    3 things:

    1: Wow, just wow. Did anything in my answer warrant an attack on my personal intelligence. I wont degrade myself with a rebuttal here, but maybe you should think a bit more carefully before you reply to someone else's post.
    I never degraded you, that's just your insecurities playing you. (I'm insulting you for a first time here, with "insecurities", however I never meant to offend you before.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    2: My answer was SCH, because I said most "fights" were designed for sustained DPS, not most content. Last I checked, solo content still has various fights that need to be overcome.

    You aren't inaccurate about what you said about the striking dummy either. But, as I'm sure you are aware, hitting a dummy is completely different than hitting a moving target that cannot attack back, with no mechanics to avoid. Plus the Coil reference you made is an example of a burst mechanic, which I believe I said WHM was better at, so...
    We aren't talking about most fights, we are talking about solo quests. If you think solo content, "still has various fights that need to be overcome." you are dead wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    3: There is no right answer to the OPs question. It is an open ended question, whose answer will be dependent on the responders personal experience. I gave my reason as to why I felt SCH had the best DPS, but that doesn't mean I am right. Just as you giving your reason doesn't make yours right either.
    There actually is a right answer just because you can't comprehend it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. SCH does have the Best DPS in most circumstances. If you think it's always the best, you missed the entire point and i'm sorry for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
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    Wow, if that was your attempt at a pseudo-apology, it's not a very good one. Calling me ignorant and then saying I can't comprehend something, aren't the nicest things to say to someone who has an opinion that differs from yours.

    Now please, I don't want this to degrade itself into a post battle. You say WHM I say SCH, let's end it at that, for the sake of anyone else who wishes to express themselves on this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Wow, if that was your attempt at a pseudo-apology, it's not a very good one. Calling me ignorant and then saying I can't comprehend something aren't the nicest things to say to someone who has an opinion that differs from yours.

    Now please, I don't want this to degrade itself into a post battle. You say WHM I say SCH, let's end it at that, for the sake of anyone else who wishes to express themselves on this thread.
    I didn't say you were ignorant, I said you could be ignorant or you could be using a hyperbole that I agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I really hope what you stated was a hyperbole of a situation that needs to be fixed.
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