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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I think they could remove positionals from NIN and SAM, but MNK and DRG keeping theirs.

    They feel tacked on for NIN and SAM - and actually they are. NIN originally didn't had positionals (on their combos) and SAM only gets them later with the addition of the Kenki gauge. Does every melee job needs positionals? If you like them pick a job with them - if you don't pick one without.

    I honestly never missed them when playing my tank in dps-mode. Why not cater to different preferences with different jobs?
    No comment on SAM, but NIN has always had a positional at the end of their combo and for trick attack. SAM is the only case of an ability not having a positional, then suddenly getting one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    No comment on SAM, but NIN has always had a positional at the end of their combo and for trick attack. SAM is the only case of an ability not having a positional, then suddenly getting one.
    Sneak Attack, when it used to exist, was also a frontal positional, so just adding onto it, ninja always had that as part of its job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Sneak Attack, when it used to exist, was also a frontal positional, so just adding onto it, ninja always had that as part of its job.
    I left sneak out since it was never used I thought outside of below 50, but yes, that's another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    No comment on SAM, but NIN has always had a positional at the end of their combo and for trick attack. SAM is the only case of an ability not having a positional, then suddenly getting one.
    Yes, Sneak- and Trick Attack always had positionals. But the other positionals were added with the release of Heavensward, originallay NINs combos didn't had them.

    Sadly it's not stated in detail in the 3.0 patchnotes, but they were talking about it in a Liveletter:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Furthermore, we have added positioning to several weapon skills. Current ninja doesn't have much positioning and was able to attack from any direction freely, so we included positioning for some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Yes, Sneak- and Trick Attack always had positionals. But the other positionals were added with the release of Heavensward, originallay NINs combos didn't had them.

    Sadly it's not stated in detail in the 3.0 patchnotes, but they were talking about it in a Liveletter:
    Oh, then I stand corrected.

    Still wouldn't say NIN feels forced into it though. They at least made it clear from the moment someone would level it, rather than SAM where people manage to get into savage without knowing they gained positionals. And it kinda makes sense to be behind your opponent...
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