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  1. #21
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    Kanzy0's Avatar
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    Kanzashi Yukihime
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    Goblin
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Unpopular oppinion, apparently, but i find the left far less confusing as a melee. By putting the marker on a platform i am always able to figure out where to go.

    Whereas when i ran with people who were doing the right placement i was always turrned around.

    Not saying its a bad strategy, just that there are pros and cons both ways
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  2. #22
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I dunno how it can turn you around. It's just letting you know that the platforms between the Waymark are yours and it ultimately doesn't matter where you stand as the only damage coming out are from Cleansing Strike, Duskblade and the stack mechanic (and maybe the tether). Everything else you can either avoid, or won't even be targeted by.
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  3. #23
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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Exodus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I much prefer the right with the markers on the bridge. It is the far more intuitive option and the better choice for clearing with random people you don't know. I believe those who hate the one on the right are simply set in their ways and expect to do the one on the left due to their experience with earlier content. Unfortunately for them, the left being what they're comfortable with doesn't automatically make it the better option for all.
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  4. #24
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I much prefer the right with the markers on the bridge. It is the far more intuitive option and the better choice for clearing with random people you don't know. I believe those who hate the one on the right are simply set in their ways and expect to do the one on the left due to their experience with earlier content. Unfortunately for them, the left being what they're comfortable with doesn't automatically make it the better option for all.
    People have given their reasons for preferring one or the other and none of it has come down to 'I don't want to learn a new way'. Kinda disingenuous to insinuate that.
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  5. #25
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanzy0 View Post
    Unpopular oppinion, apparently, but i find the left far less confusing as a melee. By putting the marker on a platform i am always able to figure out where to go.

    Whereas when i ran with people who were doing the right placement i was always turrned around.

    Not saying its a bad strategy, just that there are pros and cons both ways
    But that's part of what makes the Bridge method better. Getting "turned around" doesn't really matter as long as: 1) you don't run farther than one circle away from your bridge and 2) during double meteors, you don't both try to deposit on the same side.

    With the Circle strat you vastly increase the chance that someone gets turned around and runs in the wrong direction straight into the arms of the other group, which increases your chances of a full wipe. Just like with Ozma, I still see people who apparently have no idea what "clockwise" means or just plain can't tell their right from their left. You don't have to worry about them if you Bridge it unless they're dropping Deathbeams and meteors right into the group, but no strat will fix nonsense like that.
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  6. #26
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    My first completion was with the markers on the right. Definitely a better system because you can move things in either direction without worrying about running into the other party.

    Only issue I had with it were people not paying attention to the weapon crush marker like they should and move it away from the group so everyone else had to scatter.
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  7. #27
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I prefer the right diagram, simply because as someone already stated, you don't have to stand on the marker at all times; it's a guide to show which two circles are "yours." Placing the marker on just one circle and simply telling people that the circle to the left is "theirs" is far more likely to encourage players to linger exclusively on that marked circle and trip-up players in the heat of moment (and prone to panic/not pay attention) to running to either adjacent circle (yes, to the right too) to get rid of their markers or when they have to divide for 3-person pads. It's not so much an issue about "space to perform mechanics/avoid AoEs" as it is indicating boundaries.
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  8. #28
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    Berethos's Avatar
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    Celie Lothaire
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    Maduin
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Overlapping bubbles because people didnt get to the back in time
    The times I see overlapping bubbles are when someone goes right instead of left, or both start left and both commit to it thinking the other will course correct. I've yet to see the time to go from the center(ish) of one circle to the back of the one to the left be an issue.
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  9. #29
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    The times I see overlapping bubbles are when someone goes right instead of left, or both start left and both commit to it thinking the other will course correct. I've yet to see the time to go from the center(ish) of one circle to the back of the one to the left be an issue.
    Its just as likely that people will 'commit' to the right, or panic and both go left.
    As the diagram states, at least they'll have a shorter distance to run.
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  10. #30
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Is this Bone Dragon all over again?
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