Mahjong is the most depressing mini game you've added to XIV

[Adrestia]

Do you think it's fair to lose progress towards an achievement, WHICH NOTHING ELSE HAS IN GAME?

I guess you’ve never gotten a boss to 1% and then wiped, having to start over? Never spent time in a Battleground thinking you were going to get a win and then fell victim to a comeback? Setbacks of all sorts exist. They may not make a number tick down on the counter on the achievements page, but they can mean that number doesn’t increase in the first place.

[Adrestia]

I know how an MMR system works and I'm fine with it for it's intended purpose, and even the titles.

The problem at the core is the orchestrion roll is gated behind it.

The orchestrion roll is a prize. You have to win the game to get a prize.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I guess you’ve never gotten a boss to 1% and then wiped, having to start over? Never spent time in a Battleground thinking you were going to get a win and then fell victim to a comeback? Setbacks of all sorts exist. They may not make a number tick down on the counter on the achievements page, but they can mean that number doesn’t increase in the first place.

Ok clearly you are missing the problem.

Rating starts at 1500, it can go BELOW that while your target remains the same.

Bosses reset to the same all the time, infact on some bosses you have a checkpoint.

[Robert_Ilcri]

I guess you’ve never gotten a boss to 1% and then wiped, having to start over? Never spent time in a Battleground thinking you were going to get a win and then fell victim to a comeback? Setbacks of all sorts exist. They may not make a number tick down on the counter on the achievements page, but they can mean that number doesn’t increase in the first place.

The two aren't even comparable? A 1% wipe is annoying sure, but it still doesn't set you back that hard. Using any of the raids as an example, if you're on the second phase of say Kefka... You stay at second phase Kefka. Try again and go for it.

With Mahjong, any bit of bad luck and all of a sudden you may find yourself down a few hundred points. That could be from winding up with players who are skilled with the game or in my case the deck of tiles not playing out in your favour. The fact you lose progress towards an achievement is mind boggling. Sure the music scroll is a prize... but in that case why not put it behind something less stupid. Like buying it for MGP or as others have again stated, your rank which does not go down until that second kyu level. Its more feasible to rank up than it is to get your rating up especially when even landing third place nicks you for no reason.

[Adrestia]

Because the kyu level and your MGP are an indication of nothing but time spent. The entire idea is that you have to get better, not score an occasional win. If you want to argue that they have balanced point gain/loss improperly, then have at it. But this thread entirely seems to be a claim that you deserve a trophy just for playing a whole lot. You don’t.

[Erudito]

Can’t edit so I’ll be brief. Game takes too long and on PS4 I have no clue how to cancel a match. Rating (or whatever it is) for orchestrion music can only increase by facing other people and can go negative very easily.

Game is native to Asia so it was obvious that it would die over here after a few days, especially considering March durations.

Please change Orchestrion music acquisition requirements, point system or just plain delete that orchestrion music from there.
This hurts music collectors a lot.

[Bacent]

I guess you’ve never gotten a boss to 1% and then wiped, having to start over? Never spent time in a Battleground thinking you were going to get a win and then fell victim to a comeback? Setbacks of all sorts exist. They may not make a number tick down on the counter on the achievements page, but they can mean that number doesn’t increase in the first place.

Does any of that give you something to start with, then keep taking away from you the more you don't win? The ONLY thing in that case is losing gear durability. Something easy enough to forget/fix. But no. This you start off with 1500 points that are stripped away every time you play the game and lose against people that either A) Get lucky, or B) Know this game well.

I don't play on an asian server. The crowd is going to get thinner than a drop of blood in the water the longer this game is out. This was implemented terribly. You're also ignoring the fact that this is the ONLY game that you can't do anything for any kind of ranking against NPCs, unlike TT/LoVM. You know, other mini games, not main content like you like to compare it to.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Nowhere near what Verminion was.

It got it's own trailer.

[Vahlnir]

I gave it a go at the novice table, and while I had no idea what was going on I...actually kinda enjoyed it. I won't lie. I'll need to read the "how to play" things later, but I could see myself getting invested a bit. Unlike Lords of Verminion, where I tried it once and only ever used it for my challenge log after. If any minigame is depressing it's LoV.

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Chocobo races are also dead, i forgot the last time i raced against someone that wasn't a bot.