Where will the Orbonne Monastery lead?

[Seraphor]

With a week to go, what are we expecting to be hidden under the monastery?
Rabanastre was built over Lesallia.
The Lighthouse turned out to be Goug.
These have so far been Tactics locations hidden within XII locations, but now we start with a Tactics location.

In Tactics, the Orbonne Monastery is a signification location that’s visited twice in the plot, and the second time it leads to the Monastery Vaults beneath it, and a portal to the Necrohol of Mullonde and the Airship Graveyard.
They could just keep that, or the obvious parallel with XII which would be the Necrohol of Nabudis. However, that’s not a very notable location.
The robotic, sniper boss would imply something more high-tech, so perhaps Arcadia? The Necrohol of Arcadia? An Airship graveyard would be a befitting addition to the ruins of Arcadia… and given that Alma appears to be possessed, just like in Tactics, it would make sense to finish in the Airship Graveyard.
Or perhaps the Airship graveyard simply features the ruins of Sky Fortress Bahamut… if so, could ‘the Sky Fortress’ have any ties to Dalamud?

What do you think? What FFXII location do you think/hope is featured?

[Seraph522]

Arcadia in any form seems unlikely to me; the Garlean Empire fills that equivalent role in FFXIV's setting (large empire to the north that conquers Dalmasca, makes use of airship fleets and has heavily-armored generals, etc.). My money would be on the Great Crystal (or, alternatively, the Great City of Giruvegan) being hidden beneath it; it's a fairly important place in FFXII's plot, and it's also where you fight Ultima in the post-game, which would tie in well with Alma's apparent possession.

[Rosa_Frandlia]

Arcadia in any form seems unlikely to me; the Garlean Empire fills that equivalent role in FFXIV's setting (large empire to the north that conquers Dalmasca, makes use of airship fleets and has heavily-armored generals, etc.). My money would be on the Great Crystal (or, alternatively, the Great City of Giruvegan) being hidden beneath it; it's a fairly important place in FFXII's plot, and it's also where you fight Ultima in the post-game, which would tie in well with Alma's apparent possession.

It also makes me wonder how much we can go off the maps from FFT and FFXII, as the Monastery is just Northwest of the large southern Peninsula to the Southwest of Lesalia. For FFXII that corresponds to near the Giza Plains, which has tons of ruins in it. Of course with FFXII before FFT and FFXII recent history in FFXIV with Ashe scene in the cut scenes, that is why I wonder about it. Also Goug was on the opposite side of the Peninsula as the Lighthouse, so map there is completely different too. Rabanastre and Lesalia though were in similar places on the maps.

Less than a week till we find out though! Please nothing like Chocobo Savage to unlock it. At least no Riovones Castle!!!!

[Seraphor]

Arcadia in any form seems unlikely to me; the Garlean Empire fills that equivalent role in FFXIV's setting (large empire to the north that conquers Dalmasca, makes use of airship fleets and has heavily-armored generals, etc.). My money would be on the Great Crystal (or, alternatively, the Great City of Giruvegan) being hidden beneath it; it's a fairly important place in FFXII's plot, and it's also where you fight Ultima in the post-game, which would tie in well with Alma's apparent possession.

I would have thought the same, and it'd be awesome to see Giruvegan, but the robot boss threw me off.
I can see Arcadia or Sky Fortress being Alagan though.

[Jonnycbad]

The sniper is odd because it's not from any Ivalice title I recognize. As for Lucavi bosses, we still have Zalera (Gemini), Adrammelech(Aries), Ultima(Virgo), Sel? (Libra), Leviathan?(Pisces), Beelzebub (Cancer), Rophochehe (Sagittarius).

Perhaps the sniper is the sagittarius boss, as a gun could be one modern/ancient tech interpretation of an archer. I doubt we will see the Pisces boss because we had a water themed Matteus already. Zalera could be a fun fight and could involve zombie/heal mechanics. Final boss should be Ultima -The High Seraph. Lore-wise, they can explain the Proto Ultima/Ultima Warrior/Ultima Beast/Ultima Weapon were reverse-engineered from Omega, but they named those weapons after a goddess from Allag legend named Ultima. That way they can get away with having *another* entity named Ultima.

[Seraph522]

Zalera could be a fun fight and could involve zombie/heal mechanics. Final boss should be Ultima -The High Seraph. Lore-wise, they can explain the Proto Ultima/Ultima Warrior/Ultima Beast/Ultima Weapon were reverse-engineered from Omega, but they named those weapons after a goddess from Allag legend named Ultima. That way they can get away with having *another* entity named Ultima.

Zalera would be an awesome fight, and I like the idea re: Ultima. Clarifies the distinction between the two, but keeps the Allagans from being played up too much again. Between those two and the sniper boss, that still leaves one more boss in the raid; not sure if that'll be another esper/lucavi like Shemhazai or Adrammelech or another boss from Tactics or one of the other Ivalice games.

[Nestama]

The sniper is odd because it's not from any Ivalice title I recognize. As for Lucavi bosses, we still have Zalera (Gemini), Adrammelech(Aries), Ultima(Virgo), Sel? (Libra), Leviathan?(Pisces), Beelzebub (Cancer), Rophochehe (Sagittarius).

I think it's safe to say Mateus fills in the role for the Pisces.
As for Duma, we've technically had him as a final boss twice now. One as Argath Thadalfus (his design is closer to XII's Chaos design; who also isn't really much of a bull in design aside from his chest having a bull skull and shoulder horns), the other for Yiazmat.

[DarthSanguine]

The sniper is odd because it's not from any Ivalice title I recognize. As for Lucavi bosses, we still have Zalera (Gemini), Adrammelech(Aries), Ultima(Virgo), Sel? (Libra), Leviathan?(Pisces), Beelzebub (Cancer), Rophochehe (Sagittarius).

Perhaps the sniper is the sagittarius boss, as a gun could be one modern/ancient tech interpretation of an archer. I doubt we will see the Pisces boss because we had a water themed Matteus already. Zalera could be a fun fight and could involve zombie/heal mechanics. Final boss should be Ultima -The High Seraph. Lore-wise, they can explain the Proto Ultima/Ultima Warrior/Ultima Beast/Ultima Weapon were reverse-engineered from Omega, but they named those weapons after a goddess from Allag legend named Ultima. That way they can get away with having *another* entity named Ultima.

Adrammelech is Capricorn - Belias is Aries. Also Mateus is FFXII's Pisces.

[Seraphor]

Rophocale was in Rabanastre so the Sagittarius is taken.
I'd like to see Zalera too, we could get Zalera, the sniper thing and Ultima/Altima.

[Mansion]

I'm craving for Giruvegan and the Grat Crystal. Imagine a set of various teleporters, random rooms, no map and 24 people left in there. I'm pretty sure some woul dget lost for ever
As for the bosses, I don't know FF Tactics so I can't say, but I loved FFXII's Ultima and Zalera. But the death theme is kinda already in Mhach, so why not Shemazai, Zeromus or Exodus (with tilting platforms so you can fall to your death)

Nabudis could be interesting too, it fits the ruin-mood we see in the Orbonne pictures.