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  1. #21
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You're not exactly going to be "chaining" the Ultimate Weapon quest for your free Fantasia if it resets everything, every time. How many times do you want to go through the ARR MSQ just for that - all those long annoying fetchquests that everyone hates - and still need to get back through Heavensward and Stormblood before getting back to the current point of the MSQ?

    If anyone wants to put themselves through that repeatedly for a single Fantasia each time, I think they'd be welcome to it.


    Although if you just want to go over field dialogue, the quest scripts on Garland Tools are fantastic for that. Not quite as nice as seeing it in context, but a lot easier to revisit!
    I'm saying that more in reflexion to what Yoshi P said in the Fanfest. To me at least, it kind of sounded like he meant you could choose which parts you want to play again.

    Of course FFXIV has excellent external resources, but it is a way to have it within the game now.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    I'm divided. Honestly, I just wanted the ability to replay some msq solo duties, not replay the game from scratch.
    I think a lot of people just wanted exactly that. And yet it seems that they overdid it again and we have to play through the whole part of the MSQ to replay one solo duty. (I think Yoshida said to Koji that he would have to play x parts too, so it seems that if we want to do a solo duty in HW we have to play through all of HW again)

    I mean those that wanted to see the whole MSQ again could just start an alt character.
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  3. #23
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Edit: also, I wouldn't say duplicating the quests is complicated, [...] Incredibly tedious to do maybe, feel for the poor guy that hypothetically gets lumbered with that job, but nothing about it seems complicated as such.
    "Tedious" means lots of hours of work that they have to pay someone to do for very little tangible benefit, instead of something more important and original.



    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I think a lot of people just wanted exactly that. And yet it seems that they overdid it again and we have to play through the whole part of the MSQ to replay one solo duty.
    They said in an interview some time ago that they couldn't let us replay solo duties because it would mess with where the game thinks we are in the MSQ.

    So my best guess at what that tells us about the underlying system tracking our quests is that it isn't "marking duties off a list" as you complete them, but a single note "you are up to quest objective #XX", and completing that solo fight is hardwired to set that record to, say, "#45" upon completion of the duty. In which case being able to replay the duty would overwrite your actual quest number, and force-reset all your progress beyond the end of that fight.
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  4. #24
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    My two biggest hopes would be

    1) to pick which expansion you start at. I know they can't let you just pick at individual quests, but since the jump potions are separated by expansion, would be nice if ng+ let you start at a specific expansion. I love HW and would replay it a dozen times, but having to replay all of ARR every time just to replay HW would be a bit rough (though I have done it like 4x on alts)

    2) it gives xp! I would love a questing way to level alt jobs instead of palace/dungeon grind!!
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "Tedious" means lots of hours of work that they have to pay someone to do for very little tangible benefit, instead of something more important and original.
    You know I'm not arguing that that's how it should be implemented right?

    I'm arguing that if it just hard resets you, and therefore locks you out of 90% of the game, then it's a crap feature implemented as lazily as possible. The rest was just theory crafting how they could/might get around their own limitations, frankly, I don't really care how it's done.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 01-11-2019 at 01:04 AM.

  6. #26
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    I'm a little worried this is going to restart the whole MSQ. That it is a misunderstanding/mistranslation thing like the Male bunny suits. I know I saw him talking about it over a year ago (I think at a PAX thing) he said it would require a restart of the MSQ to be able to redo any, and he asked if that was what was meant everyone started cheering- the look of confused surprise on his face.... it was the same as he got when talking about the boy bunny suits.

    I'm thinking it's not going to work the where you can go redo the little sun quest without doing alllllllll the MSQ prior.
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  7. #27
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    Rael Levynfang
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    I don't see the appeal with New Game+ unless they're allowing us to revisit older quests and instances with new players. I hated finally getting my GF to play the game and having to sit out during certain instanced MSQ.
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  8. #28
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    Brynne Lagaao
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    Siren
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    My two biggest hopes would be

    1) to pick which expansion you start at. I know they can't let you just pick at individual quests, but since the jump potions are separated by expansion, would be nice if ng+ let you start at a specific expansion. I love HW and would replay it a dozen times, but having to replay all of ARR every time just to replay HW would be a bit rough (though I have done it like 4x on alts)

    2) it gives xp! I would love a questing way to level alt jobs instead of palace/dungeon grind!!
    This is how I feel, I'd love to level alt jobs by taking them through MSQ! And especially considering what level the new jobs tend to unlock at, HW and SB would be ideal (plus, they are more engaging storylines). However, if this makes it so that you cannot do any endgame content until you finish it, I probably won't use it. It would mean I'd have to zip through so I could still do weekly stuff with my FC, which makes it totally unappealing.
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  9. #29
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    It's for people who bought jump potions
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    Arthrun Findore
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    My two biggest hopes would be

    1) to pick which expansion you start at. I know they can't let you just pick at individual quests, but since the jump potions are separated by expansion, would be nice if ng+ let you start at a specific expansion. I love HW and would replay it a dozen times, but having to replay all of ARR every time just to replay HW would be a bit rough (though I have done it like 4x on alts)

    2) it gives xp! I would love a questing way to level alt jobs instead of palace/dungeon grind!!
    This is my hope to do. I I leveled my DRK to 45 just with palace grinds and honestly I am tired of it. I would love to take my other jobs and just power though them using the MSQ or palace just to switch them up. I really hope NG+ includes Job Story quests as well.
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