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  1. #11
    Player
    Kurando's Avatar
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    Leon Reddas
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    Masamune
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    Scholar Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    several powerful spells that could easily have been nerfed or altered to fit into parties
    It's takes SE a long time and constant patches to nerf, buff or adjust current jobs and even then some still suffer from issues, so don't say it's easy because history has dictated it definitely isn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    was very excited to have a class to play through the main story solo, especially with the New Game + feature coming soon, but this contradicts that.
    You don't know how BLU will change come 5.0, it could very well be capable of going through the MSQ with NG+. The job has plenty of time to grow and be adjusted from its release until the expac, you need to just calm down and give it time.
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  2. #12
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    My issue is that Blue Mage is essentially being locked out of what little solo content it should have had access to.
    You literally have to define solo content here, because honestly we'd have to reconsider. I think they wanted to keep it out of MSQ because the open world isn't looked at well enough. Most of the time the community doesn't pay attention to the overworld and the detail artists have put in to make XIV's world since they want to get from Point A to Point B as fast as possible; and let's not forget most people don't want to deal with overworld trash mobs that should be a considerate threat to them even though you could simply FLY OVER THEM ALL NOW.

    Also, the storyline can be traced into raids mind you, where things are being balanced. For instance, Omega was a literal part of the storyline for a while ever since the incident over Baelsar's Wall happened to counteract Shinryu. This allows us to have some type of closure with the Alpha and Omega Arc ever since we trashed Shinryu into primal dust.
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  3. #13
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    redcurrant18's Avatar
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    Character
    Wonder Noblesse
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Solo content:
    Main Quests, which includes cutscenes, overworld quests, story battles. I want to be able to play through them as Blue Mage, and access story dungeons either as blue mage through a preformed party or with whatever other job I have leveled.
    Hunts
    Most mini games in Gold Saucer
    Learning spells in the overworld, which will doubtless take a long time because we won't have the same luck they showed in the trailer where they learned spells on the first hit.

    Not solo content:
    Dungeons (we can access them preformed or party finder)
    Raids (the raid itself, not the story around it)
    Trials
    Deep Dungeon
    Roulettes
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  4. #14
    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Character
    Kyara Moonbane
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Also remember that you couldn't have played any story past level 50 anyway since BLU is locked to 50 for now - which we knew from the start. I don't know why this particular limitation is such an issue...
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  5. #15
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    redcurrant18's Avatar
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    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    This limitation concerns me because I wanted to do the New Game + on Blue Mage. I understand that since I've finished the main quest, Blue Mage can't redo a quest that was already completed, but in the future I want to be able to replay the main story using that class.
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  6. #16
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    If blue mage isn't gonna tickle your fancy then simply don't play it. There is multiple things I don't like that other people do and I allow them to have their enjoyment. Blue mage isn't even out quite yet. We have patch notes and a short video. That's it. For all we know it could be fun. Or, se in the future could add things that make it more fun but what I am certain of is that they cannot please everyone.

    Don't get me wrong, I wish it was a traditional class. But I'm fine with se experimenting. Like I don't get this community sometimes. One day y'all whine on how se never breaks from its mold then the next day y'all whine bc a new experiment is not to the traditional standards.
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  7. #17
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I wish it was a traditional class. But I'm fine with se experimenting. Like I don't get this community sometimes. One day y'all whine on how se never breaks from its mold then the next day y'all whine bc a new experiment is not to the traditional standards.
    Maybe because "break from the mold" usually doesn't correlate to "can't do content we want to".
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  8. #18
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    redcurrant18's Avatar
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    Character
    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    "Breaking from the mold":
    Unique way of learning abilities
    Alternative ways to level such as in the overworld
    Masked Carnivale
    Unique spells

    Restrictions I can live with:
    No duty roulette
    Dungeons only preformed or party finder
    No raids

    Restrictions I don't like:
    Not being able to do the main quest or New Game + and experience the story as Blue Mage
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    Last edited by redcurrant18; 01-08-2019 at 04:46 AM.

  9. #19
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    Raldo Volca
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Well you're in luck. 4.5 doesn't include New Game+


    Thought about it a bit longer...
    What about the MSQ do you even feel the need to do as a BLU? Most of it is pointless fetch quests. Any of the stuff that is "do this dungeon", you can do with a premade party. Any of the open-world stuff, the system can't prevent you from doing it on BLU. What does that leave...?
    - You might not be able to pick up MSQ while on BLU.
    - You might not be able to end MSQ while on BLU.
    - You might not be able to enter MSQ solo instances on BLU.
    - Need to kill some open-world trash? Should be fine on BLU.
    - Need to deliver some random item from point A to point B? Should be fine on BLU, so long as point B doesn't end the quest.
    - Need to do XYZ dungeon? Should be fine on BLU with a premade party.
    - The 4-man Ifrit/Titan/Garuda duties? Should be fine on BLU with a premade party.

    That doesn't sound very restrictive. I think you'll live. Oh no, I have to swap to a different job to pick up and end quests. If your response to that is "but... but my immersion!" then please visit this thread. Does that sound stupid to you? That's how you sound to the rest of us right now.
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    Last edited by Raldo; 01-08-2019 at 05:40 AM.

  10. #20
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    Stop thinking of Blue Mage as a job class to be used for content. Start thinking of Blue Mage as its own mini-game, like Verminion/Triple Triad, the difference is it can be used on overworld/dungeons/trials/Masked Carnivale content.
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