Thread: Patch 4.5 is Unacceptable

Originally Posted by redcurrant18

I can only hope they radically reverse course on Blue Mage before the release of Shadowbringers. As it stands now I don't think I'll have much enjoyment with this job.

Then it's not for you. Enjoy the other content. Problem solved.

I'm personally pleased to see something new and different than just another job to mindlessly take to 70, even if it comes with weird caveats. I'm going to treat this BLU experiment like a weird long-form minigame, because that's basically what it is.

Originally Posted by Raldo

Then it's not for you. Enjoy the other content. Problem solved.

I'm personally pleased to see something new and different than just another job to mindlessly take to 70, even if it comes with weird caveats. I'm going to treat this BLU experiment like a weird long-form minigame, because that's basically what it is.

I actually don't mind a change of pace. Besides...they've run down a lot of jobs with leveling to 70(which is taxing as it is since you have to go through old dungeons) and even though you have the Job Fantasy of BLU, it might not be the best thing for everyone if it were brought in as a Lv Cap job, especially in the end of the raid tier.

As Raldo said, it's just different bells and whistles attached to the limited job. Eureka was the same way when we first got it and people who actually remember the old MMO grind actually liked it(exempting Pagos; that was a disaster).

Mahjong was a pleasant surprise. My grandma can play FFXIV now.

Players must first complete the main scenario quest "The Ultimate Weapon."

Oh no... It can't do the 2.1- 2.55 quests. The Horror.

I'm not asking for them to make the level cap 70 right now, I'm willing to wait for Shadowbringers so all jobs can cap at 80- and that includes Blue Mage. This still is not acceptable. FFXIV's most important aspect is the main storyline, fit with cutscenes and instances. Blue Mage must be brought to the point where it can participate in all content required to progress to the main story. This class might be niche, but it is not as overpowered or game breaking judging from the evidence we've seen to this point. There is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed to do the main story quests, at the very least. Seeing how a level 50 blue mage struggled against a level 30 enemy in Costa del Sol doesn't give me the impression of the overpowered Blue Mage that was so hyped up.

Originally Posted by redcurrant18

I'm not asking for them to make the level cap 70 right now, I'm willing to wait for Shadowbringers so all jobs can cap at 80- and that includes Blue Mage. This still is not acceptable. FFXIV's most important aspect is the main storyline, fit with cutscenes and instances. Blue Mage must be brought to the point where it can participate in all content required to progress to the main story. This class might be niche, but it is not as overpowered or game breaking judging from the evidence we've seen to this point. There is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed to do the main story quests, at the very least. Seeing how a level 50 blue mage struggled against a level 30 enemy in Costa del Sol doesn't give me the impression of the overpowered Blue Mage that was so hyped up.

I think you're missing the target on this one. FFXIV's biggest aspect may be the storyline, but it's not the utmost IMPORTANT aspect of it. In fact, I think the most important aspect of it is the community around us. Bringing BLU up to raid tier levels of play will only worsen our balance issues more than before, so just wait until Shadowbringers and enjoy the job for what it is. We've been lacking solo content anyway...of course, people are free to meme "Solo Content, in MY MMORPG?".

Originally Posted by redcurrant18

I'm not asking for them to make the level cap 70 right now, I'm willing to wait for Shadowbringers so all jobs can cap at 80- and that includes Blue Mage. This still is not acceptable. FFXIV's most important aspect is the main storyline, fit with cutscenes and instances. Blue Mage must be brought to the point where it can participate in all content required to progress to the main story. This class might be niche, but it is not as overpowered or game breaking judging from the evidence we've seen to this point. There is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed to do the main story quests, at the very least. Seeing how a level 50 blue mage struggled against a level 30 enemy in Costa del Sol doesn't give me the impression of the overpowered Blue Mage that was so hyped up.

The reason there are limitations on the job is so that players can get enough actions to actually do content with. A launch of a class like this cannot just outright go into dungeons and perform as intended. This is really more like a beta period for a DRASTICALLY different class. I am glad that they aren't allowing them in most duties since it would throw off the team dynamic in terms of balance. it isn't as much of an issue of overpowered but more underpowered. Can you imagine being thrown in a PUG party with a DPS that cannot DPS because they lack the actions to do so? There is a growth period for all players. Soon enough they should be able to open up content for them, but until then just enjoy the class for what it designed to be, a soloing class. I think they will allow the lifting of the limitations upon the release of the expansion or during one of it's patches.

I get that story is important, we all love the story of the game. However can you imagine doing duties when you have nothing to fight with? They have to test waters and probably require certain public testing to setup action requirements. Give them time, this class deserves it.

Please read my post more carefully. I never mentioned raids. I have no interest in them except for seeing Fran in this new one coming out. I am talking about the main quest and story, which for me is the most important aspect of the game, cutscenes, story battles, etc. The main quest itself and New Game + are essentially solo experiences aside from dungeons, which we do have access to if preformed. My issue is that Blue Mage is essentially being locked out of what little solo content it should have had access to.

Originally Posted by redcurrant18

My issue is that Blue Mage is essentially being locked out of what little solo content it should have had access to.

You literally have to define solo content here, because honestly we'd have to reconsider. I think they wanted to keep it out of MSQ because the open world isn't looked at well enough. Most of the time the community doesn't pay attention to the overworld and the detail artists have put in to make XIV's world since they want to get from Point A to Point B as fast as possible; and let's not forget most people don't want to deal with overworld trash mobs that should be a considerate threat to them even though you could simply FLY OVER THEM ALL NOW.

Also, the storyline can be traced into raids mind you, where things are being balanced. For instance, Omega was a literal part of the storyline for a while ever since the incident over Baelsar's Wall happened to counteract Shinryu. This allows us to have some type of closure with the Alpha and Omega Arc ever since we trashed Shinryu into primal dust.

Originally Posted by redcurrant18

several powerful spells that could easily have been nerfed or altered to fit into parties

It's takes SE a long time and constant patches to nerf, buff or adjust current jobs and even then some still suffer from issues, so don't say it's easy because history has dictated it definitely isn't.

Originally Posted by redcurrant18

was very excited to have a class to play through the main story solo, especially with the New Game + feature coming soon, but this contradicts that.

You don't know how BLU will change come 5.0, it could very well be capable of going through the MSQ with NG+. The job has plenty of time to grow and be adjusted from its release until the expac, you need to just calm down and give it time.