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    Player Yuyuka3's Avatar
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    Kyara Moonbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Funny enough, I don't even Cure III there. LOL. Literally the only healing I have going out for the first minute is Regen on the MT and Medica II when the first Akh Morn is fired (my co healer takes care of the rest with Star). Normally the only other healing I do is Benediction the first Tail End since its Holmgang'd. I'm usually orange hate before this Benediction.

    My Assize's are 100% overheal that now generate 33% more hate! *Gets Tail End'd*
    This is pretty much what I do there, yeah, just with a SCH partner instead of AST. And depending on tank, if I don't stagger my aggro reduce, that Benediction has me pull hate and I die even without the change...
    Or at least things get chaotic.
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    Erakir Pompop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Funny enough, I don't even Cure III there. LOL. Literally the only healing I have going out for the first minute is Regen on the MT and Medica II when the first Akh Morn is fired (my co healer takes care of the rest with Star). Normally the only other healing I do is Benediction the first Tail End since its Holmgang'd. I'm usually orange hate before this Benediction.

    My Assize's are 100% overheal that now generate 33% more hate! *Gets Tail End'd*
    My AST doesn't seem to star it like, half the time so I've been Cure 3 M2'ing for a long time. I promise you it's as fun with aggro as you can imagine without a NIN~ If I don't lucid immediately after Akh there's a 50% chance I'll have the dragon. On the plus side, rather than dumping PI after Akh I think I can hold it till earthshakers, so that's kinda neat too. Gonna play around with Cure 3, Cure 3, swift M2 when running out this week just to see if I can have a 3 stack for it. Maybe swap a Cure 3 for medica to ensure no overheal for PI stacks and...technically less snap aggro.
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erakir View Post
    My AST doesn't seem to star it like, half the time so I've been Cure 3 M2'ing for a long time. I promise you it's as fun with aggro as you can imagine without a NIN~ If I don't lucid immediately after Akh there's a 50% chance I'll have the dragon. On the plus side, rather than dumping PI after Akh I think I can hold it till earthshakers, so that's kinda neat too. Gonna play around with Cure 3, Cure 3, swift M2 when running out this week just to see if I can have a 3 stack for it. Maybe swap a Cure 3 for medica to ensure no overheal for PI stacks and...technically less snap aggro.
    I feel like you SHOULD be able to get away with a Cure III + Medica II. Also if you open the fight with Assize (I tend to use it on the second GCD), you should have it back in time for Akh Morn resolving so there's that too.

    I'm trying to think if there are good instances to use PI since 30s still feels light for how the fight timeline is.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I wish they gave Assize an Enmity Reduction too, lol.
    Yeah I was discussing this with my static.

    Sure the enmity reductions will help in like... patch and hello word. But my opener's enmity has ironically - despite all the enmity changes - gone up, not down.

    Still, I'd happily deal with all the pre-4.5 enmity issues in exchange for some more GCD DPS and maybe some extra weaving opportunities...
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    A buff is better than nothing but sadly SE will stick there guns with WHM identity to be pure healer.It would be nice to be to see WHM do a lot raw DMG compare 2(currently)/3 others.
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    Crux Corvus
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    A minor buff to WHM, I thought it was to be a potency increase, or that was the hope. It's a good start...
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    Sin Songwillow
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Personally I'm just glad that we are going to have a potency buff for assize (mainly for the MP gain) and a lower cooldown. WHM has MP management problems. I wonder if this will balance the WHM closer to SCH... now if only there was a better means of MP management for AST considering that trying to depend on RNG to get Ewer is beyong frustrating as well.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Songwillow View Post
    Personally I'm just glad that we are going to have a potency buff for assize (mainly for the MP gain) and a lower cooldown. WHM has MP management problems. I wonder if this will balance the WHM closer to SCH... now if only there was a better means of MP management for AST considering that trying to depend on RNG to get Ewer is beyong frustrating as well.
    White Mages have a lot to complain about. MP management isn't one of them. Between Assize (pre-buff), Lucid and Thin Air, the only time you should have MP issues is if people are dying left and right. And this isn't unique to any one healer.
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    Yokko Secarius
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    I am beyond disappointed with these buffs. I wish I had nice things to say about the job itself.
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I'm surprised people still expect anything more than a pure healer out of SE. I honestly don't think it's such a bad design for some of the player base, and I'm willing to bet this is exactly why SE has ignored the vocal player base on this for so long (read: players who don't care about optimization and wouldn't stop to give feedback VS players who would < us). It makes sense in the context that WHM is basically your starter healer since the others are gated behind content. It also makes WHM one of the most comfortable healer to level etc. etc. Of course the class needs design changes but their narrative can be sound.

    Anyways, I think this will give WHM a bit of extra DPS. Not really sure that's going to be enough though. Next to that this just smells of "we need to rework the class, wait until 5.0"
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