Thread: 4.5 Patch notes are live

Admittedly using Google translate for this, but in all versions it seems to be that before, the requirement was that the team was complete in order to incur the penalty, and now, it's only the first player who leaves. So basically it's a loosening of the penalty in order to spare people who leave an incomplete party just as someone joins and makes it full again

Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Admittedly using Google translate for this, but in all versions it seems to be that before, the requirement was that the team was complete in order to incur the penalty, and now, it's only the first player who leaves. So basically it's a loosening of the penalty in order to spare people who leave an incomplete party just as someone joins and makes it full again

this and in the case someone leave after a kick get a penalty too

Love these QOL changes! We can invite cross world friends without having to mess with PF each time now!

Honestly i find the penalties still too tame. Anyone who chooses to leave the instance without a vote abandon having happened and passed should get a penalty.

Screw that. I don't wanna be stuck sitting around at 7/8 or 6/8 with a crucial role missing just because the rest of the party doesn't wanna abandon.

Oddly, the thing that made me happiest was

The glasses on the Mun'gaek Hat can now be toggled with the "Manually adjust visor" option.

I wonder where the new housing items will be hidden. The steps and loft floors look great let's hope they aren't a drop from a dungeon.

I don't get the endless salt on BLU. We knew that it would be kept out of basically everything. That's the point of BLU.

I think their biggest mistake was to present it as a "job" even if it is called limited.

Originally Posted by Mansion

I don't get the endless salt on BLU. We knew that it would be kept out of basically everything. That's the point of BLU.

The point of Blue Mage is that it is supposed to locked out of a variety of the game's content? I didn't know that was a staple of its identity.

Originally Posted by Blueyes

The point of Blue Mage is that it is supposed to locked out of a variety of the game's content? I didn't know that was a staple of its identity.

By it being solo content of just grinding open area and dungeon mobs... yes?

Originally Posted by Awha

That is not what they are saying, SE already made the community aware it would be heavily restricted so the shock some people have can be seen as confusing. To be expect a change to be made this quick is simply unrealistic.

I am also in the same boat, I never even thought of it as a job just side content and I do think that was the largest mistake SE made they called it Blue Mage and refereed to it as a job.

Hence the term 'limited'. The Blue Mage gets a special environment to play with, while facing a restriction of being able to attend regular duties of any kind.

Honestly, though: You can't balance the Blue Mage in a mmo environment like this one if it wants to stay true to its nature and identity. 'Maining' the blue mage sounds weird to me because of that.
I mean, sure, I'll level it simply to keep everything on max. But playing it will simmer down to "I got some time to spare, so lets level this job up/do a few challenges".