Thread: 4.5 Patch notes are live

Very nice things in here, but Im also worried about one of the changes made:

The precision with which furnishing positioning is registered has been increased to prevent items from moving out of place when reentering an estate.
All placed furnishings will now remain in their correct positions until moved by the player.

I dunno if this is gonna mess with some of the housing glitches you can do to make things better in your house. Nice to see they added a loft though :>

I'm curious about the loft item. Are those items on the loft part of the loft itself, or are they decorations put there for the screen shot? I really hope it's the latter and you can fully decorate them yourself.

Originally Posted by Melichoir

Very nice things in here, but Im also worried about one of the changes made:

The precision with which furnishing positioning is registered has been increased to prevent items from moving out of place when reentering an estate.
All placed furnishings will now remain in their correct positions until moved by the player.

I dunno if this is gonna mess with some of the housing glitches you can do to make things better in your house. Nice to see they added a loft though :>

I'm 99% sure this just fixes those tiny moves that items do when you leave housing mode/the house, like your windows aren't quite aligned, etc. Maybe it could ruin the window-snap-to-partition stuff, but I feel like that relies on a different mechanic than the small shifting does. At least, I hope.

Im hoping this is the case, among a few others. Crossing my fingers that when I log back in adn check my house, things are still in the same spot haha.

Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX

What do you guys make of the change of conditions for penalty of leaving duty? It's a bit confusing. Does that mean you always get a penalty for leaving, even if the party is incomplete (because someone left already)?

I've run into a situation that I'm almost certain this is meant to solve:
A party member is kicked or leaves the group
You open your menu to leave the instance
A new party member enters the instance
You click Leave before noticing the party is full again
You get a leaver penalty

With the new system, only the first person leaving the instance will get a penalty. Other players can leave without incurring a penalty, even if the party becomes full again.

Originally Posted by BubblyBoar

But then we get to BLU, now revealed to be unable to do two of the mainly solo things. The MSQ and Squad Missions. Like, you can't even level a job to 50, switch to BLU and continue the story from there with premades helping you in the dungeon. Just straight up banned from the story. Why exactly?


And then if you want to level a bit in dungeons solo with your squad, you can't even do that. Again...why? BLU is pretty much forced to only kill overworld mobs and nothing else unless they have a premade holding their hand through some instances. Isn't this supposed to be the solo job not designed for parties?


And now we have item turn-ins for learning skills too. So that's from mobs, quests, and items now. Quite the "real" BLU aimright?

I wanted BLU for group content and would always have been upset with it being a "Limited" job, but I would have gotten over it, especially if the content was fun. What really bothers me is how the devs outright lied about their reasoning for making it a Limited job.

Turning a classic FF job into a new type of content (unrelated to the main game) is regrettable, but it is understandable and defensible. Trying to hide that decision behind reasons that have time and time again proven to be false, is not.

Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

If BLU is supposed to really be that OP solo, there's also the matter of cheesing the solo achievements. So that one I can sort of see why they did it?

Isn't that supposed to be the main appeal of BLU though? I understand not letting them into group POTD (or at least matchmaking POTD) but who cares if BLU can get through to floor 200 solo much easier than other jobs? From what I understand, the whole point of BLU is that it can do things the classic jobs can't!

If it turns out that BLU isn't capable of soloing things like old Primals and raids, then Masked Carnivalle had better be the greatest content of all time, because that's literally the only thing BLU will be used for.

Originally Posted by SamsaraLotusx

We as players need to not play blue so it fail

That's silly. People will play it or not depending on if it's fun (or at the very least, rewarding). You can't organize a boycott, but it'll happen naturally if no one actually wants to play the content.

Originally Posted by SamsaraLotusx

We as players need to not play blue so it fail and s
Se dont do the next LJ.

...If anything we should be playing Blue Mage so we can provide proper feedback.

Thanks for clarifying my confusion, guys. Indeed, this is a much better way of handling leaving duty.

Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'm really curious as to why FSH didn't get a new "I Found That" achievement when it of all the DoL classes deserves more rewards for how sadistically difficult catching all of the big fish is.

Also, RIP Cavalry Elbst. It's now the only ARR beast tribe mount that can't fly because they conveniently forgot about it after giving the Direwolf flight.

Maybe they just didn't list it for w/e reason...

Also, the FSH achievement is "I Caught That" not "I Found That"