First Time Here

[SturmChurro]

I'll Give Any farm party 2 pulls but that's not the point. The focus has now become completely about I joke I said was made. And now what seems to be everyone thinks I'm complaining about the first time here joke. Completely missing everything else. Not Complaining about being a first time because Ive Clear EVERYTHING I care about with my FC Way before joking a farm the topic isnt about me but it's been made about me when my focus was the treatment of new players. To answer your question. After already being in the duty. After already clearing it and after being in a farm for 20 plus no matter what people are being unfare to new players.... Remember The Joke Came Long After Noticing this

Wow! You've cleared everything, and you are a bro to new players too?! Such a good guy.

[Syrus718]

Wow! You've cleared everything, and you are a bro to new players too?! Such a good guy.

Everything I Care About and Your Finally The First PersonTo Notice on This Thread Thanks. Now If We Can Get others to Help New Players Out.

[HyoMinPark]

Everything I Care About and Your Finally The First PersonTo Notice on This Thread Thanks. Now If We Can Get others to Help New Players Out.

I’m all for helping new players out........
........in the applicable situations.
Not in a farm party.
There is a time and a place.

[Syrus718]

I’m all for helping new players out........
........in the applicable situations.
Not in a farm party.
There is a time and a place.

I Understand you but there were no new players Just The thought of playing with one is starting to make a growing number of people mad is all I'm saying which is my point

[HyoMinPark]

I Understand you but there were no new players Just The thought of playing with one is starting to make a growing number of people mad is all I'm saying which is my point

You’re still failing to take note of context—people got snippy when you mentioned a new player in a party NOT meant for new players. This is not the same as them getting snippy about new people in general.

Your other situations don’t really prove your point either. People running ahead of a tank? Disrespectful, sure. But how does that apply to your premise of “people get mad about playing with new players”? Your comment about 24-mans is also strange: I’ve done the 24-mans at launch and people never say anything negative about new people because everyone is learning the content at this point.

[Syrus718]

You’re still failing to take note of context—people got snippy when you mentioned a new player in a party NOT meant for new players. This is not the same as them getting snippy about new people in general.

Your other situations don’t really prove your point either. People running ahead of a tank? Disrespectful, sure. But how does that apply to your premise of “people get mad about playing with new players”? Your comment about 24-mans is also strange: I’ve done the 24-mans at launch and people never say anything negative about new people because everyone is learning the content at this point.

To answer your question its stigma that's tanks have to pull all mobs to the boss before they Get Aoe'd To death. The assumption was this person is new and wont do that. But i want to get out this dungeon fast so I'll tank as A dps. And your points makes mines its launch day why are you making a big deal about a person being new. You said you never saw it but I have which is why I asked when did this become a thing?

[HyoMinPark]

To answer your question its stigma that's tanks have to pull all mobs to the boss before they Get Aoe'd To death. The assumption was this person is new and wont do that. But i want to get out this dungeon fast so I'll tank as A dps. And your points makes mines its launch day why are you making a big deal about a person being new. You said you never saw it but I have which is why I asked when did this become a thing?

You’re using the incorrect word by using “stigma”. I believe the word/phrasing you’re looking for is, “It’s the norm for tanks to pull everything to the boss”, which it is.

I’m not proving any of your points—I’m saying this is something that doesn’t happen hardly ever. I’ve never seen people get angry about people not knowing mechanics Day 1, and I’ve ran 24-mans on Day 1 for quite some time now. And they don’t get mad or make a big deal about it because people are learning. Your example of one person getting testy about a healer not DPSing on Day 1 does not make it the norm.

More often than not, people don’t say much in the chat. Even when people are messing up repeatedly.

[Vidu]

I Understand you but there were no new players Just The thought of playing with one is starting to make a growing number of people mad is all I'm saying which is my point

You dont seem to understand why they get mad though.
Its most likely not the thought of new people in general, but about new people in a context where they dont belong - and a new person simply doesnt belong in a farm-party easy as that.

And I can think of several scenarios about new people sneaking into farm-parties - not queuing with "Duty Completed" checked in the end, the bonus-message being missed or something simple like you having cleared the content, but passing the controller to your younger brother who has never even played the game and tell him to just have some fun while you take a shower. Seen it happen. Not joking.

There is a time and a place for new people and not wanting them in your farm-party OR expecting them to listen to advice and giving their best doesnt equal hating or abusing them.
There also is a time and a place for jokes - for me personally that would mainly be amongst friends to avoid as much missunderstandings as possible.

[SturmChurro]

Everything I Care About and Your Finally The First PersonTo Notice on This Thread Thanks. Now If We Can Get others to Help New Players Out.

I wish I was more like you.