PS Vita and Final Fantasy XIV

[Agoven]

With Vita + Remote play of PS3 games = FFXIV on Vita watch it'll happen. No reason it can't.

[Firon]

With Vita + Remote play of PS3 games = FFXIV on Vita watch it'll happen. No reason it can't.

With my psp now not the vita, it Remote plays ps1 games so slow i couldn't even see it being that good on the vita.

[Noir]

the games that will let you do that so far look below average as of PS3 standers, and no the Vita is not "as good as a PS3" I don't care what BS Sony spews out about it, spec wise it is no where near. I dont hate the vita, I plan on getting one myself, but I am not fooled by marketing ploys

The Vita can run FFXIV as much as the PSP could run FFXI (aka not at all)

http://www.1up.com/news/final-fantas...ita-not-remake
don't get your hopes up to much, all the vita will be doing is running a PS2 game with slightly better textures.

You gotta see to believe it. Even the best psp game released so far, graphics wise that would be parasite eve 3rd birthday or kingdom hearts birth by sleep, looks cheap comparable with any vita game so far. Even not being that close to the uncharted from ps3, vita uncharted managed to get 90% character modeling and 80% scenery compared with uncharted ps3. Give some time and yes, they could make it look 95% as the ps3 counterpart. I heard FIFA vita looks the same as the ps3 minus some game modes. Final fantasy X, was kinda of obvious that it wouldn't be a remake. But more a HD version on the likes of god of war hd. I will get it anyway

[Fensfield]

Well, goodness knows I'd like to be able to play through my Vita - and the touchscreen keyboard on the thing being as good as it is it'd probably be easier to chat through it than with the PS3, even if you do have one of those keypad controller attachments.

Not that I'm worried whether it'll happen, not least because Yoshida already named the Playstation Vita as a platform they're taking into account as a future platform in current plans. By the time S-E are in a position to develop a Vita-based client, I suspect it will have a worthwhile userbase for the endeavour, and it most certainly can run the new client if the PS3 can. Obviously the client would have to be optimised for the task, but those saying it's impossible are I can only assume being a bit blinkered by the way things are now - 1: Our current client is coded in such a way as to be intensely processor dependent, a problem that'll be rectified with the new engine moving over to DX11, and 2: It'll be repurposed to be friendly to lower end systems.

Factor in this is a dedicated gaming platform we're talking about, not a PC with all the inefficiencies that have to be taken into account.. of course it's possible.

That said, what I'm not so sure about and would love, would be if, as others have suggested, the PS Vita could be complimentary to a client on the PS3 (or even PC). Say, running an independent log window or inventory control or something.

[Antipika]

Very few PS3 games run at 60 FPS, most run at 30-40FPS. So it's actually possible that it could/can run at 60 FPS if they realistically optimize it enough to do so, but most companies opt against 60 FPS on the PS3 not out of laziness or lack of skill, you can make a damn good looking game run at 30 FPS, only shooters tbh need as many frames a possible.

That's because most of consumers expectations are quite low that we are getting games running at 30fps. I'm sorry but I'm not enjoying most of games when they cannot even run with a solid 30fps... Then again, I'm not asking for xiv on vita to run at 60fps, but if other games cannot, xiv will never. Square Enix fail at optimising anything they develop.

I don't know about lumines, but of course if you can get a simple puzzle game with the iPhone, you will get it with the iPhone and save money. What you can get with vita, like uncharted and other full console games you can't with the iPhone. Lumines is made by ubisoft, don't blame Sony for th price. I think $40-50 for a triple A game with vita is fair. Actually th vita prices are much fairer than the ps3 ones. They range from $20-50 while a new Ps3 game goes from $40-60!

Only few triple A title can deserve a full $40 price tag, most of games on handheld consoles does not. Especially thinking about all these sport game rehash as well, like virtua tennis 4 or even everybody's golf 39. Same goes for wipeout...

[Colino]

As much as the ps3. If we can play a ps3 game , pause it, and continue on the vita, means that it can run it. But I'm waiting an answer from the devs if its only a dream or if it's being considered. We will be getting ff X for vita/ps3, but I really expect square to surprise us in a good way as they always do.

You know those games are being streamed from the console right? It's not actually "running" them.

[Nikita]

I doubt we will ever see the full game on the Vita. Yoshi-P did mention something along the lines of being able to raise your chocobo on the Vita in an interview with Eorzeapedia though. What I could see is streaming XIV to a tablet using OnLive or something similar.

[Fensfield]

You know those games are being streamed from the console right? It's not actually "running" them.

No, that's Remote Play - and not many PS3 games are compatible with it; it has to be manually enabled on a per-game basis (although it seems to be universally compatible if the game's being emulated from an earlier system like the original Playstation).

Noir is talking about Cross Play - same game published on both consoles, accessing the same save data via cloud storage, or people with the game on the PS3 being able to play with people who have the game on the PS Vita, ala Wipeout 2048 <> Wipeout HD/Fury. There's a Metal Gear game planned that'll allow cross-play single player by stashing its saves on SEN and being published for both Vita and PS3.

[Colino]

No, that's Remote Play - and not many PS3 games a compatible with it; it has to be manually enabled on a per-game basis (although it seems to be universally compatible if the game's being emulated from an earlier system like the original Playstation).

Noir is talking about Cross Play - same game published on both consoles, accessing the same save data via cloud storage, or people with the game on the PS3 being able to play with people who have the game on the PS Vita, ala Wipeout 2048 <> Wipeout HD/Fury. There's a Metal Gear game planned that'll allow cross-play single player by stashing its saves on SEN and being published for both Vita and PS3.

Ok, but in the case of Cross Play it's not the same game and it's definitely not the same graphics running at 60fps, I can guarantee you that.

[Fensfield]

Ok, but in the case of Cross Play it's not the same game and it's definitely not the same graphics running at 60fps, I can guarantee you that.

Well of course not. Despite 'fact the Vita's specs average out about similar to the PS3 when you factor in the RAM, it's processing power is lower and comes from a totally different architecture. Code written for the PS3's cell processor is basically incompatible with the standardised stuff in the PS Vita, even setting aside the lower maximum screen resolution.

Frankly, if they go with a port rather than something platform-specific, they'd probably have an easier time porting from the PC.