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  1. #31
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    The level of toxicity in XIV has been several magnitudes lower then any other MMO I've played when it comes to random dungeons.

    It helps that there's a lot less pressure due to the damage being tuned low enough that getting aggro from a mob isn't going to be almost immediately lethal like it is in some other MMOs.
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  2. #32
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    Lambdafish's Avatar
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I don't care what you say my rights are. I can just as easily say the tank had no right to throw a tantrum and quit. I can also easily say DPS and Healer have every right to move ahead if they can handle it and the tank has no right to get emotional about it, especially at the bottom level duties where a tank isn't even needed. Or what, am I now encouraged to quit teams that go ahead of me every I tank now too? Do you approve of me having this right?
    I also don't actually care how you play the game, only how the game is designed. If you want to move ahead and leave a player behind, because "you can", go ahead, but you are responsible for the consequences and who you disrespect because of that decision. You come across like you shouldn't need to think about the tank at all, and the only experience that matters is your own, which when combined with what you just wrote about who you think is right says a lot about the situation. You said that the tanks job is to lead, but also that you wouldn't let the tank lead, and that nobody was wrong except the tank for leaving.

    Again, I'm not emotionally invested in any of your dungeon runs, but the fact that you are here on the forums defending your actions and treating yourself as the victim, even after being called out several times, to quote Metalwrath:

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    sums up whats wrong with the community.



    Edit: To more directly answer your question, because for some reason this is needed, if the DPS and healer go ahead of you when you play as a tank, and you leave, that is a right that you have, because:
    A) You feel that taking the consequence of an extended timer is preferable to dealing with a toxic party
    B) It falls within the GMs definition of "differences of playstyle". (Though in this case, the tank played the game as intended, and you decided not to, causing point A).
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 01-08-2019 at 12:49 AM.

  3. #33
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    I also don't actually care how you play the game, only how the game is designed. If you want to move ahead and leave a player behind, because "you can", go ahead, but you are responsible for the consequences and who you disrespect because of that decision. You come across like you shouldn't need to think about the tank at all, and the only experience that matters is your own, which when combined with what you just wrote about who you think is right says a lot about the situation. You said that the tanks job is to lead, but also that you wouldn't let the tank lead, and that nobody was wrong except the tank for leaving.

    Again, I'm not emotionally invested in any of your dungeon runs, but the fact that you are here on the forums defending your actions and treating yourself as the victim, even after being called out several times, to quote Metalwrath:






    Edit: To more directly answer your question, because for some reason this is needed, if the DPS and healer go ahead of you when you play as a tank, and you leave, that is a right that you have, because:
    A) You feel that taking the consequence of an extended timer is preferable to dealing with a toxic party
    B) It falls within the GMs definition of "differences of playstyle". (Though in this case, the tank played the game as intended, and you decided not to, causing point A).
    I'm not treating myself as the victim. As I have repeatedly said, the tank wasn't needed at such a low level duty, we proceeded with the duty just fine without her. I was pointing out toxic behavior, only to receive several excuses for that tank. At least now I know I can troll parties by quitting the instant anyone ever gets ahead of me when I tank now. I used to try my hardest to stick it out with even the greenest party but I know I need not bother anymore. It'll be hilarious making them wait in that DPS duty queue twice. *evil cackle*
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    Last edited by Edax; 01-08-2019 at 11:36 AM.

  4. #34
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    The level of toxicity in XIV has been several magnitudes lower then any other MMO I've played when it comes to random dungeons.
    Yeah, while I do on occasion find an elitist jerk or a legit aweful player not open to constructive criticism, by and large DF experiences for me have been pleasant or at least neutral in the game. Though that does make some of the legit bad experiences stand out a bit, they're fairly rare for me.
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  5. #35
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Yeah, while I do on occasion find an elitist jerk or a legit aweful player not open to constructive criticism, by and large DF experiences for me have been pleasant or at least neutral in the game. Though that does make some of the legit bad experiences stand out a bit, they're fairly rare for me.
    This has been my experience typically. There are always gonna be those who are full of it and talk so much smack and are jerks for even teh slightest infractions, but those cases are pretty rare I believe. Most people are satisfied if you get through the dungeon fairly quickly and without issue.

    As for the OP, yeah the tank appears to have been a grade A jerk and try-hard. I would let it go and not let it bother you. Guy was being an ass. Just worry about yourself and do your best and things will work out.
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