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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    There were no newbies in that run and the tank for whatever reason was moving unusually slow. Me the other dps and the healer were moving ahead of the tank because of that, this wasn't just me acting out. We asked the tank to move faster and she responded by quitting immediately. I'm sorry but I've also tanked and duties are a team effort and if the team requests an increase the pace of the run, quitting instantly instead of asking us to slow down was not the polite thing to do. I'm sorry if you feel I'm what's wrong with the community.
    If they were moving slow and they dsiconnected it sounds to me like they had connection issues or lag.
    Also plenty of level 70 players are new.The way leveling is now your character level doesnt define how new you are anymore.Also i never said specifically the tank could be new.
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    Edax Royeaux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    If they were moving slow and they dsiconnected it sounds to me like they had connection issues or lag.
    Also plenty of level 70 players are new.The way leveling is now your character level doesnt define how new you are anymore.Also i never said specifically the tank could be new.
    Usually it's the polite thing to do to tell the team your lagging or having connection issues, instead of just instantly quitting because the team asked you to move faster. And no, she did not disconnect, you can tell when a player has quit a duty cause their portrait disappears.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    That's not even typical for bad tank behavior. The typical douche finder tank usually plays in a way that makes things difficult for others and doesn't give two shits about it. For example: a recent PUG WAR I had in Pharos Sirius HM would Tomahawk each individual mob in the pack instead of using Overpower, and it was causing him to lose hate to anyone who would start attacking prior to him grabbing all the enemies. When called out, he said Overpower sucks because it's a cone and told us to hold off on attacking until he has full agro. Freakin /facepalm man.

    Your tank is a special kind of douche because a tank who calls out a healer for healing them is a unique brand of stupid. Either way, DF is always a roll of the dice and it isn't surprising when a tank main is taken aback a bit when they role as something different and notice just how shitty DF tanks can be.
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    Ameela Trussa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    There were no newbies in that run and the tank for whatever reason was moving unusually slow. Me the other dps and the healer were moving ahead of the tank because of that, this wasn't just me acting out. We asked the tank to move faster and she responded by quitting immediately. I'm sorry but I've also tanked and duties are a team effort and if the team requests an increase the pace of the run, quitting instantly instead of asking us to slow down was not the polite thing to do. The quitting penalty exists for a reason. I'm sorry if you feel I'm what's wrong with the community.
    "Tankxiety" can hit pretty hard, especially if you get called out by your party "^ ^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ameela View Post
    "Tankxiety" can hit pretty hard, especially if you get called out by your party "^ ^
    I have "tanxiety" all the time. This is why I usually communicate at the very start of the duty to set the pace or just before a boss I don't remember. The tank is suppose to be the de facto leader after all and communication is a very important part of that.
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    This sounds like the typical DF stuff that you find sometimes, regardless of the role. It's true, tho, that some tanks have some kind of god complex, but you can also find others that are nice and helpful. Just ignore the bad players (don't even bother to reply to their crap, don't give them the attention that they want), report them if they get too far, and be done with it. It's useless to think too much about it, and they don't deserve it either. Your gaming experience will be better on the long run, too.
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    Kick, report, and move on with your life. You have already given the idiot too much attention.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I tank. But since you have already labeled me:

    I see no point in continuing this discussion.
    I also tank, and they are right that you handled the situation very poorly. You said yourself that the tank leads, so you should let them lead. I get it, we all rush low-level dungeons and can be a bit inconsiderate at times, its part of being human, but that doesn't make you right or justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Kick, report, and move on with your life. You have already given the idiot too much attention.



    I also tank, and they are right that you handled the situation very poorly. You said yourself that the tank leads, so you should let them lead. I get it, we all rush low-level dungeons and can be a bit inconsiderate at times, its part of being human, but that doesn't make you right or justified.
    If I'd stayed behind the tank, it would also mean leaving the DPS and healer whom is at the front unsupported. That would also be inconsiderate. It's a low-level dungeon. Once combat has started, you help out right? Leaving your team to fend for themselves to "respect" the tank is awfully obtuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    If I'd stayed behind the tank, it would also mean leaving the DPS and healer whom is at the front unsupported. That would also be inconsiderate. It's a low-level dungeon. Once combat has started, you help out right? Leaving your team to fend for themselves to "respect" the tank is awfully obtuse.
    If the DPS and healer are pulling mobs and die from it, I don't see how that's inconsiderate on your part.

    Like I said, we all rush ahead sometimes, but that's not a right that you have. Not letting the tank lead and instead going off ahead and pulling mobs as DPS and healers doesnt help anyone learn and is inconsiderate no matter how you look at it, and making excuses doesn't help your case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    If the DPS and healer are pulling mobs and die from it, I don't see how that's inconsiderate on your part.

    Like I said, we all rush ahead sometimes, but that's not a right that you have. Not letting the tank lead and instead going off ahead and pulling mobs as DPS and healers doesnt help anyone learn and is inconsiderate no matter how you look at it, and making excuses doesn't help your case
    I'm assuming that you've played the lower level duties many times, so should already know that the parties moves at a momentum that is outside the control of any one player. By saying I don't actually have the right is overstepping your bounds. I don't care what you say my rights are. I can just as easily say the tank had no right to throw a tantrum and quit. I can also easily say DPS and Healer have every right to move ahead if they can handle it and the tank has no right to get emotional about it, especially at the bottom level duties where a tank isn't even needed. Or what, am I now encouraged to quit teams that go ahead of me every I tank now too? Do you approve of me having this right?
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    Last edited by Edax; 01-07-2019 at 12:53 PM.

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