Is this typical tank behavior in DF dungeons?

[SerLuke]

So I main PLD I usually tank unless a friend or FC/LS mate wants to tank, but in this case I went in to 50/60 rolo with my RDM and my in game wife went healer(WHM). So a little but into the dungeon she gets a lag spike and everything freezes up, she hits bene cause she's worried the dude was gonna die while she was lagging and the PLD immediately calls her out and starts going off on her and calls her a ****y healer, I stood up for her saying I've known her for 3 years and she's anything but a ****y healer then he called me a simpleton and that we were just casuals. Ironically earlier he had forgot to apply any oath and I pulled aggro but I didn't call him out on him I just thought "meh its DF", I did bring it up after he went on his rant though and he went on about how he was allowed to make mistakes and she wasn't. Should I just try to tank as often as possible to avoid these kinds of people?

[Ilenya]

Typical, no. Some people are just dumb. Most tanks can understand if something happens to go wrong.

[Alucard135]

I would vote kick him before last boss lol (you got 2/3 votes on your side already). He'd probably end up breaking his monitor from the rage after.

[Mikki]

I would vote kick him before last boss lol (you got 2/3 votes on your side already). He'd probably end up breaking his monitor from the rage after.

You. I like you. Hahaha.
Seriously, this seems mean but people like him need to learn that if you aren't nice to others, then they won't want to play with you. If you can't play nicely, go play some other toxic multiplayer game. Like League. FFXIV generally has such a friendly community, it's a real shame when we get some of those immature jerks voicing their opinions rather loudly.

[Vidu]

1) We have an actual thread dedicated to sharing horrible DF-stories: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry.-Let-s-vent. No need to create a seperate thread each time you run into idiots in a dungeon

2) No, obviously not all tanks in this game are jerks.

3) Jerkish behaviour is not exclusive to tanks either - you can meet impatient DPS and healers (who might pull for you) just as likely.

4) Personally, I'd still bring a tank and a DPS for each run, to ensure fast and smooth clears. At least thats what I'm doing - I tank, my boyfriend comes as DPS that way I can set a fast pace and he ensures that stuff actually dies quick enough to keep said pace.

5) As I sort of mentioned earlier: This still wont prevent you from running into jerks or outright bad people from time to time. Nothing you can really do to avoid that, beside only going into dungeons as full group. So my advice here is: Just move on. You'll meet those people on occassion, if its really getting out of hand: Report. If they're hindering your run or getting really abusive: Kick them.
But dont waste a second thought on them. If you need to vent - I linked a thread dedicated to that. But getting a thicker skin, shrugging things like that off and just enjoying your game is the best thing you can do.
At least in my experience stuff like this happens rarely enough. Dont let it get to you - theres no way to avoid jerks, they're not linked to a specific role after all. (I'd only recommend to bring a tank so you have the most "control" over the run and can ensure that stuff gets pulled fast - nothing enrages me as much as a tank taking a minute to pull stuff, but the only thing you ensure by queuing up as tank - or healer or DPS for that matter - is that this role is filled by a competent person. You can still end up with a jerkish dragoon or whitemage, even if you queue as tank)

6) Proper communication can go a long way aswell - informing your party about your lag-issues as soon as they appear. They might believe you or not, but seriously... "I've known her for 3 years!" sounds like a boyfriend making a shallow excuse for his girlfriend rather than she telling the party herself "Sorry, got a lag-spike here!"
Again, might be "personal preference", but I would disregard a bf defending his gf much, much faster than she informing the party herself about a technical issue she got right now. It speaks way more to her own competence if she just says that instead of you telling the party how long you've known her.

Bottomline: Jerks will be jerks; jerks can fill any role and you'll avoid them by avoiding randoms; we have a thread to vent if you need to.

[SerLuke]

Bottomline: Jerks will be jerks; jerks can fill any role and you'll avoid them by avoiding randoms; we have a thread to vent if you need to.

I guess my thing is, I typically don't care if people make mistakes during the dungeon as long as its not causing consistent wipes, there was no wipes here, no deaths, just her panicing and hitting the wrong button I was just really shocked at such an intense response to a simple mistake.

[Vidu]

I guess my thing is, I typically don't care if people make mistakes during the dungeon as long as its not causing consistent wipes, there was no wipes here, no deaths, just her panicing and hitting the wrong button I was just really shocked at such an intense response to a simple mistake.

Has nothing to do with him being a tank though - I have seen healers refuse to heal or raise people because they thought those people did something wrong and then comment on that with "I dont heal stupid".
I've seen a monk refusing constant raises in O12NM because the tank dared to pull without a cooldown. Which obviously is an annoying thing to do, specially for a monk who needs some prep-time, but not bad enough to act as petty as he did and stay dead on the floor for the next 10 minutes, having the healer (who wasnt his poor partner, going by them having the same last name) and the RDM waste mana on his dead butt.

You'll run into this kind of people no matter what role you pick for yourself - the best advices I can give you are to pick the more vital roles so you can control the run more easly and kick people if needed, to grow a thicker skin and move one from the jerks you will encounter and to actually imrpove your communication with the party to not let those situations escalte. (Also: Vent in the thread dedicated to it)

[Edax]

I've seen a tank just abandon the party in the The Tam-Tara Deepcroft because the party was moving a bit faster then she liked and she wouldn't tolerate not having her way for even a second. This is the The Tam-Tara Deepcroft mind you, where a tank isn't even technically needed to tank if everyone is being synced. Is this the norm? No. Most players in the daily roulette just want to get the low level duties over with as fast as possible.

[Metalwrath]

I've seen a tank just abandon the party in the The Tam-Tara Deepcroft because the party was moving a bit faster then she liked and she wouldn't tolerate not having her way for even a second. This is the The Tam-Tara Deepcroft mind you, where a tank isn't even technically needed to tank if everyone is being synced. Is this the norm? No. Most players in the daily roulette just want to get the low level duties over with as fast as possible.

You're post sums up whats wrong with the community.Just because you're in a lower level dungeon and all synced level doesnt give you the right to show complete disrespect to the tank regardless if you can handle the mobs without a tank or not.
You were being impatient and running ahead of the tank on purpose by the sound of it.
Most people dont check peoples profiles on runs unless there is a problem arising from low dps or heal or tanks taking too much damage.
By running ahead of tank on purpose you are setting a bad habit that newer high level players will adapt and in turn do to new tanks.
I suggest you go back and learn the basics.Rule 1 tank goes first.

[Edax]

You're post sums up whats wrong with the community.Just because you're in a lower level dungeon and all synced level doesnt give you the right to show complete disrespect to the tank regardless if you can handle the mobs without a tank or not.
You were being impatient and running ahead of the tank on purpose by the sound of it.
Most people dont check peoples profiles on runs unless there is a problem arising from low dps or heal or tanks taking too much damage.
By running ahead of tank on purpose you are setting a bad habit that newer high level players will adapt and in turn do to new tanks.
I suggest you go back and learn the basics.Rule 1 tank goes first.

There were no newbies in that run and the tank for whatever reason was moving unusually slow. Me the other dps and the healer were moving ahead of the tank because of that, this wasn't just me acting out. We asked the tank to move faster and she responded by quitting immediately. I'm sorry but I've also tanked and duties are a team effort and if the team requests an increase the pace of the run, quitting instantly instead of asking us to slow down was not the polite thing to do. The quitting penalty exists for a reason. I'm sorry if you feel I'm what's wrong with the community.