New Player Job Questions

[KarmaCrimzin]

Hello everyone I'm new to the game just started last week to find a game to fill my mmo needs. I just have a question about for a new player what jobs I should go for being new to the game. I started out as a pugilist/monk and I have been looking at red mage since its a melee caster hybrid from what i gather from videos. I'm looking for something thats versatile to do content with. I came from Wow (like alot of people) and I played a druid mainly and I like the ability to do a lot of things at once but cant decide between the 2 jobs.

Thanks in advance.

[Zerathor]

Jobs in this game don't quite fulfill multiple roles like hybrid classes in WoW, if that's what your asking. The only tanks are war, pld, and drk. The only healers are ast, whm, and sch. The only caster dps are blm, smn, and rdm. The only ranged physical are brd, and mch. The only melee dps are sam, mnk, drg, and nin. No one job is able to be 2 roles when it comes to dungeons and raiding.

Certain jobs do bring different utilities to the group however. Rdm for example has some nice healing abilities (not good enough to be an actual healer however) that might be able to save somebody, and they're useful in solo content/open world content. Rdm is also good at raising people in the middle of combat. Rdm in general is a good dps to chose for progressing content with your group due to their recovery utilities.

So basically to fulfill a different role, you simply level up a new job and change over to that job. If you wanted good mileage for this, you could level up arcanist first. Arcanist goes into summoner, and scholar, and the levels are shared. Meaning if you level up summoner to max level, you only need to go back and do the job quests for scholar and your scholar will be max level already. So you got to level up a caster dps job, and a healer job at the same time. And both of those jobs are quite good at their roles.

[BiffWellington]

There's not really a super-versatile class quite like the WoW Druid in this game. I'd say the closest thing is the Arcanist, the one class that has two jobs (one DPS, one healer).

Red Mage seems to come pretty close, too, but it's also sort of like the hero classes in WoW in that you have to get to a fairly high level to unlock it.

[KarmaCrimzin]

Ok Red Mage ill give a shot since i'm leveling a Monk right now and its almost to lvl 35 but the positional skills in dungeons are killing me and i'm hoping it gets better as i hit max. The job is fun and i heard its damage is insane but just got to push through positional based skill requirements and its a learn as you go thing. I'm also a sucker for jobs that I don't see around much since i'm weird like that.

So for Red Mage is its damage ok in end game raids or does it get dropped straight after progression when everyone knows fights? I don't really know how the raid community is here since WoW was a bit different if you weren't planning to get world first no one really cares what you play.

[Hierro]

Ok Red Mage ill give a shot since i'm leveling a Monk right now and its almost to lvl 35 but the positional skills in dungeons are killing me and i'm hoping it gets better as i hit max. The job is fun and i heard its damage is insane but just got to push through positional based skill requirements and its a learn as you go thing. I'm also a sucker for jobs that I don't see around much since i'm weird like that.

So for Red Mage is its damage ok in end game raids or does it get dropped straight after progression when everyone knows fights? I don't really know how the raid community is here since WoW was a bit different if you weren't planning to get world first no one really cares what you play.

People around these parts care to an extent what class you are in raids, only because it makes things ever so slightly easier either to play or meet a dps check or whatever.

[Seraph522]

Ok Red Mage ill give a shot since i'm leveling a Monk right now and its almost to lvl 35 but the positional skills in dungeons are killing me and i'm hoping it gets better as i hit max. The job is fun and i heard its damage is insane but just got to push through positional based skill requirements and its a learn as you go thing. I'm also a sucker for jobs that I don't see around much since i'm weird like that.

So for Red Mage is its damage ok in end game raids or does it get dropped straight after progression when everyone knows fights? I don't really know how the raid community is here since WoW was a bit different if you weren't planning to get world first no one really cares what you play.

Just as a heads-up, you won't be able to unlock Red Mage until you've reached level 50 in another class/job, like Monk. You'll also need to have purchased the Stormblood expansion if you haven't already. As for Monk, most jobs don't really feel fully fleshed out until you hit 50, and they tend to develop further from there. The positionals are tricky, but it can push out a lot of DPS, which is always nice. Since you need to level another job up to 50 anyways, I'd recommend sticking with Monk until you hit that point and see what you feel like then.

RDM has fine DPS damage as well, though not as high as some other jobs. Its raid utility is what its most appreciated for, but that includes farming after progression is complete. Any job in this game can clear any content as part of a group, and unless your static insists on sticking to the meta to the letter, you'll be able to main it just fine. Being good at your chosen job is more important.

[Zerathor]

Ok Red Mage ill give a shot since i'm leveling a Monk right now and its almost to lvl 35 but the positional skills in dungeons are killing me and i'm hoping it gets better as i hit max. The job is fun and i heard its damage is insane but just got to push through positional based skill requirements and its a learn as you go thing. I'm also a sucker for jobs that I don't see around much since i'm weird like that.

So for Red Mage is its damage ok in end game raids or does it get dropped straight after progression when everyone knows fights? I don't really know how the raid community is here since WoW was a bit different if you weren't planning to get world first no one really cares what you play.

Monk damage is very good. Red mage dps is also good. As long as you become proficient with the job you want to play, every job is more than capable of doing all content (although i'd stray away from mch for the time being. they're strong, but their rotation is a little too ping reliant and annoying)

People still bring redmages through weekly reclears, they aren't dropped after prog.

I will also say its often easier to squeeze a red mage into a group than a monk at times, due to rdm being a caster. Its easy to bring 3 ranged/casters into a party and it not impact mechanics at all, but bringing 3 melee can sometimes be troublesome for certain fights if they all want to keep uptime and hit positionals. Also monk has to compete with dragoon and ninja for that melee slot, which is pretty rough competition. Ninja's trick attack adds substantial group damage, as it lines up with my job's burst windows, and dragoon gives the piercing vulnerability up for the bard, as well as battle litany and their eye tether dps boost. You can find groups easily enough with monk, but i believe you'll have a much easier time finding a group as a red mage.

[Songwillow]

Down the road, it might be worth looking into Blue Mage (BLU) when it comes out in a little over a week. It is supposed to be the strange jack of all trades class that is designed to handle solo content VERY well. However you have to learn actions in a very unique way by watching the enemy use it then defeat the enemy. This class is considered to be about as hybrid as it can get. However from what I understand, it is capped at level 50 (which the cap will gradually increase in later patches), and it cannot do dungeon, trial, or raid content. We will learn more about it soon.

[GoodnewsEveryone]

As a former WoW druid player who started a monk first and wanted to be a red mage for the same reasons as you, I ended up really enjoying the summoner and Scholar. After level 30 you can unlock both classes and I swap back and forth constantly. Between you and your pet and the 2 roles you can do pretty much everything, so I felt the same kind of satisfaction from it that I got on my druid before. I hope you are having fun with the game though regardless of what class you pick!

[Senden]

As a former WoW druid player who started a monk first and wanted to be a red mage for the same reasons as you, I ended up really enjoying the summoner and Scholar. After level 30 you can unlock both classes and I swap back and forth constantly. Between you and your pet and the 2 roles you can do pretty much everything, so I felt the same kind of satisfaction from it that I got on my druid before. I hope you are having fun with the game though regardless of what class you pick!

You gain arcanist xp too don't you even after unlocking secondary classes.. so does that mean by leveling one also means the other gains levels too? That sounds pretty awesome. PS: love your username assuming it's a Farnsworth reference.