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    'This town certainly has changed, and not at all for the better'

    So, I think maybe I have located where Thancred and the Child of Light are in the teaser trailer... maybe. Halatali!




    While it's not a perfect replica, it does seem quite similar, the floor pattern, the chain linked fence in the distance, the chains on the wall, the two hanging torches by the doorways. Also, from what I can tell, the scene of them running up the stairs in the previous scene isn't the actual preceeding shot, as the area behind the doorway looks different from the previous shot.
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    It certainly could be, but it would be worth having a look at other buildings around Thanalan too. And the Sil'dih tunnels where they escape after the Bloody Banquet.


    (But seeing that there as a screenshot reminds me again how much it looks like the castle from the game ICO. Running hand in hand with a mystery 'child of light' girl for bonus points.)
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    In the first scene you even see em running past smt that looks a lot like those cages in halatali... hmm...
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    I don't recall Halatali having the architectural features in the part of that scene, namely the two large staircases where the winged lion creature comes crashing down.

    Of course, it could just be a representative version of Halatali, or a portion we haven't seen.

    That Thancred comments on "This town certainly has changed" I think is the strongest evidence against it being Halatali, as I'm not sure why he would opt to call what is now just a training grounds a "town" the way he would Ul'dah or Ala Mhigo.
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    Isn't Amdapor the most likely place. All of the bosses from the Hard Mode were in the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Isn't Amdapor the most likely place. All of the bosses from the Hard ,nose were in the trailer.
    Architectural style doesn't line up for the section with Thancred in it. The environment around the WoL might fit, but if it was where Amdapor was then it's been leveled - the few times you can see the surrounding environment it's devoid of structures.

    Also, much like with Halatali, I don't see Thancred commenting on it in the manner that he does if it were Amdapor.

    Based on the architecture and his comments, I don't see it being any location other than Ul'dah (and much like parts of the HW trailer, more representative of the location than an accurate rendering of the places we can visit in-game).
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    It could very well be the interior of this place:



    Which is part of one of the new zones. If it isn't, then the interior of Ul'dah or Ala Mhigo is a solid enough bet. Halatali is an option, too, though it isn't exactly a town - thus it being referred to as such would be odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Architectural style doesn't line up for the section with Thancred in it. The environment around the WoL might fit, but if it was where Amdapor was then it's been leveled - the few times you can see the surrounding environment it's devoid of structures.

    Also, much like with Halatali, I don't see Thancred commenting on it in the manner that he does if it were Amdapor.

    Based on the architecture and his comments, I don't see it being any location other than Ul'dah (and much like parts of the HW trailer, more representative of the location than an accurate rendering of the places we can visit in-game).
    You are not incorrect per se. But the two locations are right next to eachother on the map. So it's within the realm of possibility that it's an area of Amdapor closer to Thanalan, that we havent been too.

    While the bosses could be more stylistic than literal, why choose those specific bosses, if they didnt mean anything. Plus Kuribu are stated to be Gelmorran (spelling). Gelmorra was a subterranean city in the Shroud. I would think the underground of any location would look similar, and Halitali is predominantly underground.

    Plus on the assumption that the "child" he is with is Minfilia, a location in the Shroud makes more sense. Minfilia is Ala Mhigan, and to get to Thanalan from Ala Mhigo, you have to pass through the Shroud. Not saying it's what is happening since everything is speculation at this point, but it is worth mentioning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    You are not incorrect per se. But the two locations are right next to eachother on the map. So it's within the realm of possibility that it's an area of Amdapor closer to Thanalan, that we havent been too.

    Why the bosses could be more stylistic than literal, why choose those specific bosses, if they didnt mean anything.
    It's possible it's close geographically, but I don't see how the Amdapori, who have a distinct architectural style, would suddenly then have a different style from a civilization that came after them...so that at least makes Thancred being in an area of Amdapor highly unlikely (on top of his "this town" reference - that I am certain is pointing to him being in one of the major cities, which really only matches two, and of those two he has significantly more history with Ul'dah). The location of the WoL could be in an area just outside the ruins of their city, though it could also be one of several other areas ruined by a calamitous event. That depends on the timeline for what we're seeing though, as watching it again it became clear that the narrator isn't the WoL in the moments we are seeing in the trailer, but an undetermined about of time after (also interesting that at one points he says "the one they called the Warrior of Light" instead of "call the Warrior of Light"). If the scene is likewise something that is taking place after the calamitous event, then it could be anywhere, and if it's taking place before then the environment of those sets of scenes does suggest at the WoL is possibly near Amdapor, though not actually at Amdapor.

    As for why they chose them - I assume they are meant to evoke fighting against entities that represent or are connected to the light, rather than strictly connecting them to Amdapor and a civilization that fell over 1500 years prior.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Plus on the assumption that the "child" he is with is Minfilia, a location in the Shroud makes more sense. Minfilia is Ala Mhigan, and to get to Thanalan from Ala Mhigo, you have to pass through the Shroud. Not saying it's what is happening since everything is speculation at this point, but it is worth mentioning.
    I don't assume the child is Minfilia. In fact I'm assuming she's not.
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    Re:// The Amdapor thing (and feel free to quote me in other threads that bring it up), Lore Book 2 mysteriously mentions that the Amdapori based Kuribu on "transcendent beings from yet another plane." There might not be a direct connection to specifically Amdapor at all.
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