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    Where will the Orbonne Monastery lead?

    With a week to go, what are we expecting to be hidden under the monastery?
    Rabanastre was built over Lesallia.
    The Lighthouse turned out to be Goug.
    These have so far been Tactics locations hidden within XII locations, but now we start with a Tactics location.

    In Tactics, the Orbonne Monastery is a signification location that’s visited twice in the plot, and the second time it leads to the Monastery Vaults beneath it, and a portal to the Necrohol of Mullonde and the Airship Graveyard.
    They could just keep that, or the obvious parallel with XII which would be the Necrohol of Nabudis. However, that’s not a very notable location.
    The robotic, sniper boss would imply something more high-tech, so perhaps Arcadia? The Necrohol of Arcadia? An Airship graveyard would be a befitting addition to the ruins of Arcadia… and given that Alma appears to be possessed, just like in Tactics, it would make sense to finish in the Airship Graveyard.
    Or perhaps the Airship graveyard simply features the ruins of Sky Fortress Bahamut… if so, could ‘the Sky Fortress’ have any ties to Dalamud?

    What do you think? What FFXII location do you think/hope is featured?
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    Arcadia in any form seems unlikely to me; the Garlean Empire fills that equivalent role in FFXIV's setting (large empire to the north that conquers Dalmasca, makes use of airship fleets and has heavily-armored generals, etc.). My money would be on the Great Crystal (or, alternatively, the Great City of Giruvegan) being hidden beneath it; it's a fairly important place in FFXII's plot, and it's also where you fight Ultima in the post-game, which would tie in well with Alma's apparent possession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraph522 View Post
    Arcadia in any form seems unlikely to me; the Garlean Empire fills that equivalent role in FFXIV's setting (large empire to the north that conquers Dalmasca, makes use of airship fleets and has heavily-armored generals, etc.). My money would be on the Great Crystal (or, alternatively, the Great City of Giruvegan) being hidden beneath it; it's a fairly important place in FFXII's plot, and it's also where you fight Ultima in the post-game, which would tie in well with Alma's apparent possession.
    I would have thought the same, and it'd be awesome to see Giruvegan, but the robot boss threw me off.
    I can see Arcadia or Sky Fortress being Alagan though.
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    The sniper is odd because it's not from any Ivalice title I recognize. As for Lucavi bosses, we still have Zalera (Gemini), Adrammelech(Aries), Ultima(Virgo), Sel? (Libra), Leviathan?(Pisces), Beelzebub (Cancer), Rophochehe (Sagittarius).

    Perhaps the sniper is the sagittarius boss, as a gun could be one modern/ancient tech interpretation of an archer. I doubt we will see the Pisces boss because we had a water themed Matteus already. Zalera could be a fun fight and could involve zombie/heal mechanics. Final boss should be Ultima -The High Seraph. Lore-wise, they can explain the Proto Ultima/Ultima Warrior/Ultima Beast/Ultima Weapon were reverse-engineered from Omega, but they named those weapons after a goddess from Allag legend named Ultima. That way they can get away with having *another* entity named Ultima.
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    Rophocale was in Rabanastre so the Sagittarius is taken.
    I'd like to see Zalera too, we could get Zalera, the sniper thing and Ultima/Altima.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Zalera could be a fun fight and could involve zombie/heal mechanics. Final boss should be Ultima -The High Seraph. Lore-wise, they can explain the Proto Ultima/Ultima Warrior/Ultima Beast/Ultima Weapon were reverse-engineered from Omega, but they named those weapons after a goddess from Allag legend named Ultima. That way they can get away with having *another* entity named Ultima.
    Zalera would be an awesome fight, and I like the idea re: Ultima. Clarifies the distinction between the two, but keeps the Allagans from being played up too much again. Between those two and the sniper boss, that still leaves one more boss in the raid; not sure if that'll be another esper/lucavi like Shemhazai or Adrammelech or another boss from Tactics or one of the other Ivalice games.
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    I'm craving for Giruvegan and the Grat Crystal. Imagine a set of various teleporters, random rooms, no map and 24 people left in there. I'm pretty sure some woul dget lost for ever
    As for the bosses, I don't know FF Tactics so I can't say, but I loved FFXII's Ultima and Zalera. But the death theme is kinda already in Mhach, so why not Shemazai, Zeromus or Exodus (with tilting platforms so you can fall to your death)

    Nabudis could be interesting too, it fits the ruin-mood we see in the Orbonne pictures.
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    Ultima is already in the game though, she's an Ascian (she's only appeared once so far, in the 'Ascian Council' cutscene in the Chrysalis during the patch 2.3 story, and she has the original PS1 FFT mistranslated name of 'Altima'... presumedly to avoid confusion with the Ultima Weapon for players who haven't played FFT/FFXII).
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    I think I'm confusing Duma/Rophocle. Was Algus (screw his WOL name) using Tarus? That boss looked nothing like nor acted like a bull
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    We see Alma being whisked away and falling into a portal during the trailer. If she's possessed like in FFT, Ultima would make sense. They could also just call her "Seraph" and say she's a primal, both to reference "Ultima-The High Seraph" from FFT/FF12 and the FF6 Esper, "Seraphim".

    I can't imagine what other fitting final boss there would be to wrap up Ivalice. While FF12 is somewhat represented in the Ivalice raid, it was mentioned several times they want it to more heavily lean towards the FFT side of Ivalice, hence why both areas start with an FF12 zone (which is around in modern-day Hydaelyn) but give way to an FFT ruin underneath.

    Also: I just realize, we never got the "Cancer" lucavi in FFT, however, Construct 8
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