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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    It doesn't reward having alts, but does not punish them.

    "Alts" primary purpose in the old times was to have characters of multiple jobs. In games with a single class per character that allowed people to play more than one class. In here you can have all the classes on any character so there is no practical point to alts.

    And by the way, exploiting the game to add alts to friend list can get you banned. If for no other reason then because that more than doubles your inventory space. This game doesn't allow trading items to alts for a reason. Whether we agree with it or not is not the point. The point is that these people have practical advantage over those that do not exploit it.

    Also, adding yourself to a friend list is anything but "a given". The tone in which you wrote that suggests otherwise. Quite frankly...it's a ridiculous notion. And exploiting the inventory space is literally the only reason for that...so there's the malicious intent.
    I'm punished by paying more money for alts.

    "But but you can just do everything on one character"

    But I like having alts for a variety of reasons. Before you go on, I'm not complaining, it is what it is.

    Old times are just that. Old. Modern games let you do all the above.

    If everyone could trade between alts *poof* no more "advantage".

    Everything else you said has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I don't condone exploits and never have.

    My point was that folks went through extreme measures for a feature that other games have had for years.

    Keep your passive aggressive tone to yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurien View Post
    I'm punished by paying more money for alts.
    Honestly speaking, I always considered it a price reduction for NOT having alts. The non-entry subscription is the base. So it's not that you are paying more money. It's that those that use the entry subscription pay less.

    Though I do agree that it is...questionable...practice to say the least, it have nothing to do with punishing you for playing alts. It's like saying that you are punished for wanting a first class flight because you have to pay more than the economy class. You pay more for more service since their costs are higher. How much higher their costs are compared to the price difference doesn't matter here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurien View Post
    But I like having alts for a variety of reasons.
    That's fine. I don't care, nor does anyone else. But you liking something doesn't mean that you're punished for getting it at all, let alone for being able to get them but with a caveat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurien View Post
    Old times are just that. Old. Modern games let you do all the above.
    Doesn't matter. Ever heard the terms "old-fashioned" or "nostalgia"?! "Newer" does not mean "better" and "older" does not mean "worse". A free alt support is nice and all, but saying that it should be included only because that's how "modern games do it" is using a poor argument for your cause.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurien View Post
    If everyone could trade between alts *poof* no more "advantage".
    "If everyone could one-hit bosses, *poof*, no more advantage from one-hit-kill exploit."

    The game is not supposed to allow you that. It's simple as that. Weave it like you want, but they are exploiting the game systems to get advantage that they should not have. I wouldn't care the slightest bit in single player game...but I do most certainly care in a multiplayer game. If they want to use their alts as mules, they should at least go through the inconvenience and risks of doing it through a middle-man like the game systems permit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurien View Post
    My point was that folks went through extreme measures for a feature that other games have had for years.
    This is not "other games". There are many things I dislike in this game. And yes, I personally am not particularly fond of this deal with alts, how they divided it into standard and entry subscriptions and in general how certain things surrounding that are made. But that does not mean I have the right to expect it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurien View Post
    Keep your passive aggressive tone to yourself
    It's called karma. Your post was passive aggressive as well. Instead of saying that you'd want them to do X or Y you are accusing them of punishing you for X or Y. Those are two different tones and even if they ultimately do the same thing, show that you'd prefer something in a different way, the manner in which they do is entirely different.
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