Leveling {Poll}

[Zezlar]

They have addressed power-leveling.

Yoshi made a long post about it a bit ago.

Edit: I don't trust random 3rd party sites.

Which in the end did absolutely nothing to prevent it from happening. Nothing will change either because Yoshi-P has basically came out and said that he doesn't give a flying crap what we all think about PLing. It's here because he wants it to be, and it's not going away.

[Kailok]

Good post - refreshing to read; especially compared to the "your post makes me angry and so i bash you and shove my opinion down your throat like i be right" posts. And, yeah, I too am hoping for a more meaningful, rewarding, and, what I feel is very important to me in a fantasy online RPG, memorable experience while xping (a.k.a, progressing/growing my character) once 2.0 comes out.

Thank you :] I try to be reasonable on the forums, as not many folks around here are. Glad someone liked it xD.

In regard to an exp cap~ I agree that there should be a certain point at which:
Challenging Mob = Cap @ 1200 (just an example number)
Chain #5 = Cap @1200 (example number)
Chain #5 on a challenging mob = Cap @1500

This means that you have something to strive for with both things. If you want to take the time to take out a tougher monster, feel free to because you get big bucks out of it. As an alternative you can kill these lower monsters. They're faster and lower exp, but if you kill them quickly enough you can yield the same reward. I believe this would influence players to feel encouraged to try both as well as opening up more options for camps.

I remember in FFXI (Pre-Abyssea) whenever puk/bird/imp parties were all taken on a very busy night, there was always a very last resort..Sky. Fighting Golems. Now, this was never a great solution, simply because of the fact that it was so far away from Whitegate and a pain in the arse to get to, but it was still a viable option if you absolutely had to.

[Kailok]

Which in the end did absolutely nothing to prevent it from happening. Nothing will change either because Yoshi-P has basically came out and said that he doesn't give a flying crap what we all think about PLing. It's here because he wants it to be, and it's not going away.

I think he doesn't mind PLing, and that's not a big deal. The big deal is how fast you can level even in a party that isn't getting power-leveled. I don't care if he changes power leveling, I like to help my friends; I just want them to adjust either EXP rates or Monster difficulty. Honestly, I feel it should be a combination of both. I remember a while back Yoshi-P DID say something about changing it so that mobs would take about 30-45 seconds to fight -each-.

[Zezlar]

I think he doesn't mind PLing, and that's not a big deal. The big deal is how fast you can level even in a party that isn't getting power-leveled. I don't care if he changes power leveling, I like to help my friends; I just want them to adjust either EXP rates or Monster difficulty. Honestly, I feel it should be a combination of both. I remember a while back Yoshi-P DID say something about changing it so that mobs would take about 30-45 seconds to fight -each-.

Okay, let's assume that they do change it. Outside of possibly it taking a little longer for parties. How does that stop PLs from spamming everyone to 50 in a flash? What's it going to take? Two Firagas instead of one? I never cared about XIs form of PLing (Healing from the outside only) but XIVs version is game breaking.

[Reaujien]

I never cared about XIs form of PLing (Healing from the outside only) but XIVs version is game breaking.

Yeah, I feel the same. I'm all for helping out my friends when they need help in the form of killing mobs too tough for them - whether it's to get them caught up or for a quest, etc. However, the ability to PL as you currently can in this game is just... man...stupid.

[Avraym]

The game does cater to all types. Ff is one of the only mmo left to encourage party play the way they do.

Just because its possible to solo level, doesn't make it effective. I enjoy group play, its why i only play online games now.

But compare how long it takes to go from 45-50 in a natalan 8/8 party, compared to leveling solo.

[darkstarpoet1]

Just because its possible to solo level, doesn't make it effective. I enjoy group play, its why i only play online games now.

But compare how long it takes to go from 45-50 in a natalan 8/8 party, compared to leveling solo.

you could compare going from 40-50 as a group and compare it to 40-41 solo and i'd be almost certain the group would get those 10 levels before the solo got the 1.

[Avraym]

you could compare going from 40-50 as a group and compare it to 40-41 solo and i'd be almost certain the group would get those 10 levels before the solo got the 1.

Exactly. Hardly viable between the two.

[Relic]

I voted very... 40-50 is laughable in an efficient coffer/sb party.

[Kailok]

Okay, let's assume that they do change it. Outside of possibly it taking a little longer for parties. How does that stop PLs from spamming everyone to 50 in a flash? What's it going to take? Two Firagas instead of one? I never cared about XIs form of PLing (Healing from the outside only) but XIVs version is game breaking.

I see your point. I have to admit I was overly concerned with PLing when it came out when I saw what it could do. What I meant mainly was the "idea" of PLing. I don't really care if a friend decides to help another friend. You're right. In it's current state it can be abused just as badly as a full exp party on drugs, so I agree it should be changed. However, the inherent problem is that it supplements the already too-fast exp system. BECAUSE we exp so quickly is one of the main reasons as to why the current PLing is so dangerous. It takes what is already over-done and doubles it.

That's just my opinion, but I do agree it can be game breaking.